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US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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Europe endures and prospers at the expense of the US military forces.

On the other hand, we take the refugees produced by US military and foreign politics. And our countries are the first to crumble into dust if there is another Dr. Strangelove.

The US Military didn't force you to take them.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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> stop living under the yoke of fear and distraction pumped out by the media machine If you have a solution that scales up to the population at large I'm all ears.

Get everyone "vaccinated"? https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/fake-news-vaccine-works-...

In case anyone thought that was real vaccination, it's a method to present the typical fake news tactics in an attempt to help you to recognize them for what they are.

The link to the actual game is here: https://getbadnews.com/#intro

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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post #218

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On the other hand, we take the refugees produced by US military and foreign politics. And our countries are the first to crumble into dust if there is another Dr. Strangelove.

The US Military didn't force you to take them.

Right. Just leave those refugees to cook under the sun in an overcrowded, broken down boat in the Mediterranean until they drown. Or be like Hungary: raise a fence on the border, with armed personnel at checkpoints, and hope that shooting people on sight becomes ethically accepted.

What's wrong with you people.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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post #234

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The US Military didn't force you to take them.

Right. Just leave those refugees to cook under the sun in an overcrowded, broken down boat in the Mediterranean until they drown. Or be like Hungary: raise a fence on the border, with armed personnel at checkpoints, and hope that shooting people on sight becomes ethically accepted. What's wrong with you people.

What's wrong with the refugees? Why can't they fix their own country instead of messing up other ones?

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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post #218

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Europe endures and prospers at the expense of the US military forces.

On the other hand, we take the refugees produced by US military and foreign politics. And our countries are the first to crumble into dust if there is another Dr. Strangelove.

The U.S. ensures the safe maritime trade of goods and services around the world. Many European counties do not need to (heavily) invest in their own armed forces because the U.S. is able to provide the necessary protection. These reasons are why I made my previous claim.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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Maybe in Iraq, but Lybia, Afghanistan and Syria would be even worse without foreign intervention.

My soul hurts a bit when I see people from a privileged position of power write this and judging the world in simplistic terms. You say Lybia is better now, destroyed and torn by war, with no real government in sight, with ISIS there and civil war, thousands dead and economy destroyed is better than with Gadaffi and with biggest economy by far in Africa and with law and order (however that law and order is achived)?…

I’m sorry your soul hurts.

I didn’t say it’s better now. What I said was that a lot of those places have a tumultuous history of instability (Afghanistan) or are run by dictators where a violent power struggle is a certain eventuality (Libya, Syria).

Gadaffi was going to lose power eventually (through death is certain) and the power struggle that results is going to be ugly.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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Our military (US) and military budget is just another cold war era echo which has been propagating for far too long. There are so many alarmist media outlets in this country who 'make their steak' off of fear mongering (looking at you FOX news) and what's more unfortunate is the general public's seeming endless supply of naive assent too their ideals and tactics. It isn't the US governments fault the military industr…

I can recommend The Shadow World: Inside the Global Arms Trade by Andrew Feinstein - mind you I found it quite depressing as the levels of corruption and cynicism that it describes are quite remarkable.

Fantastic book.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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I always have wondered how people calculate pollution from countries. I mean, that must be from data gathered from the government? For countries/governments that doesn't even have or have a very limited garbage disposal, that must mean they pollute very little on paper when in reality people just throw stuff into the ground / ocean etc. I don't really believe this article. It seems like a typical clickbait shit artic…

The article is talking about carbon footprint, it's in the very first sentence, had you taken time to barely open the article.

Lol, I did open the article but it doesn't say how it calculates the carbon footprint or whats included.

And my point was literally that there is several countries that simply cannot measure their carbon footprint since they barely have a functional government.

And even if the article only talks about CO2, it is still very, very misleading and the title is even worse. Like I said, a clickbait article.

Re: US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

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You joke, but Canada has disputes with Russia over arctic territorial claims.

And that dispute is being resolved [0] on the basis of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea [1]. Interestingly, this convention is signed and ratified basically by the whole world, but not by the US. [0] https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2019/04/russia-scor... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_t...

Russia's other recent international seizure was Crimea, which was for sure NOT done in accordance with the International Law of the Sea. Canada has, in fact, enacted sanctions against Russia. I posit that if Canada were a softer target, Russia would simply seize the territories, the way they did from the Ukraine.
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