Microsoft's Linux Kernel • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by simaracode » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:38 AM UTC

brennebeck wrote: post #136

umeshunni wrote: post #38

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Absolutely. At this point, there isn't much value for Microsoft to hang on to the legacy of Windows - with most of their revenue coming from Azure/Cloud and developer products, it might be time to say goodbye to that legacy and make it subsystem on a modern Linux-based system. That might also be a way for them to become more relevant in mobile devices and platforms.

Eh? ‘Most’ of MSFTs revenue comes from Windows and Office. Isn’t Azure/cloud/server less than ⅓? Not that that’s not substantial, but it’s not most.

Primarily Office business (on premises and cloud) server applications such as SQL and Windows Server, Azure, Windows.

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by EpicBlackCrayon » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:38 AM UTC

hermitdev wrote: post #86

filmgirlcw wrote: post #42

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Disclosure: I work at Microsoft but not on Windows (and my work machine is a MacBook Pro FWIW) WSL 2 is a lot like that -- it's a VM in the sense that it uses Hyper-V, but it's super lightweight. And in fact, when WSL 2 is enabled, both Windows AND Linux are running in the same type of VM (separate, obviously), so it's near-native performance in a lot of ways. There are still some I/O issues that the team is actively…

I'm nervous about WSL 2. I use WSL at home quite a bit and I'm on the Fast Insider ring. My PC hasnt been able to boot Win10 for over a year with virtualization support enabled in my BIOS. No errors or anything, just hangs at boot. Ive left feedback in the hub, but crickets. Don't know what the problem is. It used to work, but at some point an update broke it. Not bleeding edge hardware, either. About a 4 to 5 year o…

Can you post a link to your feedback?

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by judge2020 » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:41 AM UTC

sprashanth wrote: post #148

Just noticed the contributors as showing "∞ contributors" :D

Same for the official linux source https://github.com/torvalds/linux

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by emmelaich » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:41 AM UTC

What's the bet that MacOS will switch to the Linux kernel within the next five years?

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by lsllc » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:43 AM UTC

I admire what Microsoft have done with WSL and now WSL2, it's really pretty cool. Satya has done an excellent job revitalizing Microsoft from the Ballmer days.

However, WTF. Why has the "Microsoft" directory got a leading capital. I mean every.other.directory.in.linux.is.lower.case!!!!!! Look around folks! Every other vendor in that tree has their name lowercase, please respect the local customs!

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by ngcc_hk » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:47 AM UTC

No no no. Can’t be. They thought it is cancer ...

The new Microsoft may finally let me go back to windows. Mac is too expensive.

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:47 AM UTC

utopcell wrote: post #107

The apt name would be Microsoft/Linux. But that would give Stallman an aneurysm.

WSL 1 was GNU/NT, I would think.

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by ngcc_hk » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:48 AM UTC

kop316 wrote: post #40

jdoliner wrote: post #6

My brain threw an exception when I read this title. Awesome that this is a reality though. Now that we have a Linux kernels running and accessible on both Windows and Chromebooks I feel like we can finally say: 2019 actually is the year of Linux on the desktop. It's not a meme anymore, it's finally just a true statement. Edit: To those questioning if this really counts as Linux on the Desktop. Yes, I understand what…

I was like you when I read that. I remember when Ballmer called Linux cancer: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_...

I was hardwired with that memory.

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by chungy » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:50 AM UTC

crispinb wrote: post #153

cududa wrote: post #146

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Why is op getting downvoted? This is a legitimate issue he’s facing on a specific hardware configuration

This is a total aside, but I really don't understand voting on comments. I've no idea what it could mean - levels of agreement, interest, offensiveness (or scores of other possibilities)? It seems entirely meaningless, therefore pointless, to me.

I'm giving you an upvote. Make of it what you will. :)

Re: Microsoft's Linux Kernel

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Post by cameronbrown » Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 2:51 AM UTC

briffle wrote: post #102

rolph wrote: post #27

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problem is the kernel is sitting on top of a binary blob, and that manipulates the access to the real machine. we shouldnt be so worried about the kernel, we should be concerned about what the binary between the kernel and the hardware is doing/notdoing , and what degree of control do we have over that layer.

The same problem exists in VMware, or really any cloud provider...

Cloud providers have no profit motive in breaking your trust. I fully believe an OS-vendor for personal computers would, especially if there's almost no alternatives.