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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by alexis_fr »

cosmodisk wrote: post #471
jedberg wrote: post #102

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Nothing wrong with USB-C and the big trackpad is fine too, and I would love to have touchID on my 2015MBP. But getting rid of mag power and the USB-A ports, HDMI port, and SD card slot was a big step back. Maybe you don't ever need to present anything from your laptop, but if you talk to anyone who does, they will tell you how awful it is to not have an HDMI port. The USB-C to HDMI is the worst adapter I've ever seen…

I'm not an Apple fan and I never had any of their products, however I think this is still the right direction,even if it's super painful. I've got Dell Xps 13,which only has USB-C ports and SD card slot. Initially you get annoyed you can't connect your usb stick,hdmi cable and etc.,but then you start thinking like screw them.There are endless variations of cables,ports and standards and it's just mad. I just hope tha…

Yes, USB-D is supposed to do that. 1 port for all applications. You will be able to daisy-chain your screens, keyboards, printers and projectors, but also power supply, and it also adds TouchID compatibility. One port to rule them all. USB-D is the future!

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by anbop »

The new headquarters syndrome strikes again. Ive, sidelined, went eyeballs deep into the new headquarters, alongside a decline in physical product quality like the trashcan design miss and keyboard gremlins. Hardware and software teams kept executing but there’s clearly a need for a change in design.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by anbop »

jws wrote: post #429
zild3d wrote: post #188

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I'd take asymmetric borders over having a large notch anyday. See S10+ next to an iphone XS Max [0]. It's subjective of course, but strictly looking at display & bezels the "which is more aesthetically pleasing" question is not even close [0] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NG5Wd9Px40o/maxresdefault.jpg

Notch? What notch? I have an iPhone X and mine has ears which extend the display up into the top of the phone where the camera is placed to get my status bar out of the screen. Brilliant! I say.

I wish those “ears” were more purpose built, like physical indicator LEDs for microphone and camera access, SSL, etc.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by anbop »

novok wrote: post #90
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

I think the reason why now only the iphone has symmetry is patents.

Symmetry is not patentable.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by anbop »

Bud wrote: post #197
PunksATawnyFill wrote: post #66

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How about decisions like removing the headphone jacks from the company's most popular music players, the very devices with which people are supposed consume the media-centric services that Tim Cook and analysts say are the future of Apple? For Apple's and consumers' sake, I hope NOT.

This decision was promptly copied by every other major phone manufacturer, for the same reasons Apple made the decision. The 3.5mm jack is obsolete and getting rid of it enables a better, tougher device which is more waterproof.

Apple is a trendsetter and nobody can deny that. That doesn’t make the headphone jack an anti feature. I use a 6S to this day when I could get a XS, for the headphone jack and smaller size/weight.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by will_pseudonym »

alaskamiller wrote: post #2

Inevitably most every creative person crave independence regardless level. So he pulled a kanye and started his own Donda. Now awaiting LoveForm x Mercedes, LoveFrom x Piguet, LoveFrom x Nike, LoveFrom x Apple luxury goods collabs.

No LoveForm x Yeezy? :)

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by nkkollaw »

I truly hate Ive's design choices lately.

It's form over function (see: laptop so thin that the keyboard doesn't work, you can't fit any port, etc. etc.), which is definitely NOT good design.

Both Apple's hardware and software have been nosediving for the past 5 years. So much so that I'm still using a 2015 MacBook Pro, and only because of macOS because Microsoft Surface Book looks about 1000 times better than anything Apple's ever made—and it has a detachable touchscreen with pen.

I hope this is good news for Apple to get better at design again.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by LoSboccacc »

zild3d wrote: post #188
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

I'd take asymmetric borders over having a large notch anyday. See S10+ next to an iphone XS Max [0]. It's subjective of course, but strictly looking at display & bezels the "which is more aesthetically pleasing" question is not even close [0] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NG5Wd9Px40o/maxresdefault.jpg

it's a funny chain of consequences. put a notch, now the bottom border is too thick, so you thin it up with a very expensive manufacturing process. if you had not a notch there, there would have not been a need to move away the chin to maintain visual symmetry.

anyway even with most manufacturer producing notch design, I still find no benefit that entices me to move to a notch model for a feature that adds a total of 44 pixels rows at twice the selling cost to maintain visual border symmetry, but I understand there are people obsessed with aesthetics that are willing to part a sizeable amount of money for a symmetrical bezel.

It appears I'm just not the target audience of apple anymore.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by alexis_fr »

mstade wrote: post #233
jwr wrote: post #203

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Yes, it's definitely divisive. In my case, I do need a reliable keyboard, I do not have a single USB-C device around me that I can connect (while having literally tens of USB-A devices), I do not need or want the touchbar, I want the function keys, and I don't mind the extra thickness. The new macbooks make all the wrong compromises for me. So, if it is divisive, why not make both kinds? Why does there need to be a s…

> So, if it is divisive, why not make both kinds? Why does there need to be a single compromise across the entire line? I’m guessing because it’s probably cheaper and easier to produce fewer models, and not enough benefit to producing more. It obviously rubs some people the wrong way, but perhaps not nearly enough, no matter how vocal they may be.

The crux today is the OS. It’s gotten to the point that I’d pay 300$ per computer per year for a paid Linux that makes... me... feel b... beautiful, I know it sounds very immature but macOS makes me feel like I have succeeded in life and can afford the right tool, and Linux makes me feel like I have a knock-off that I constantly need to debug.

I’m paying that price for IntelliJ so I don’t see why I couldn’t afford an OS for employees.

But $300 per year is more or less the prime for Apple products, but the drawback is their hardware loses features.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by anbop »

HeadsUpHigh wrote: post #376
Bud wrote: post #197

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This decision was promptly copied by every other major phone manufacturer, for the same reasons Apple made the decision. The 3.5mm jack is obsolete and getting rid of it enables a better, tougher device which is more waterproof.

It blows my mind how people call things obsolete without replacing all of their functionality. The only reason the 3.5mm jack is considered obsolete is because Apple said so. Literally nobody had any problem with it existing up until the day Apple announced that iphone. If this isn't the definition of sheeple then I don't know what it is.

Acting like I’m the Luddite because I don’t want to breastfeed 25 battery powered peripherals. Next they’ll say MagSafe was obsolete.
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