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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by 0xffff2 »

msbarnett wrote: post #146
jedberg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing wrong with USB-C and the big trackpad is fine too, and I would love to have touchID on my 2015MBP. But getting rid of mag power and the USB-A ports, HDMI port, and SD card slot was a big step back. Maybe you don't ever need to present anything from your laptop, but if you talk to anyone who does, they will tell you how awful it is to not have an HDMI port. The USB-C to HDMI is the worst adapter I've ever seen…

> The USB-C to HDMI is the worst adapter I've ever seen. FWIW, you're far better off getting a native cable with a USB-C end like [1] or [2] rather than using a dongle. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-USB-C-Supporting-Black/... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-USB-C-Suppo...

Maybe for your personal monitors. A far more annoying problem is connecting to conference room projectors. My or still has conference rooms with nothing but VGA cables plugged in to the projector.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by emehrkay »

mstade wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

My only beef with usb-c is that there doesn't seem to exist a hub that offers multiple usb-c ports with via a single usb-c port. Until those are mainstream, I feel that usb-c is inferior to a/b.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by dv_dt »

liamcardenas wrote: post #116
dharmon wrote: post #29

I, even (especially?) as a long-time Apple fanboy, am looking forward to some fresh design blood in the Apple ecosystem. AAPL is down about 1%. So I guess the market values Ive at around $9B? :P

Well they aren’t losing 100% of him since they are still able to retain his services. If this price movement was due to his departure it would indicate he has an even higher valuation.

The question in my mind is not are they losing 100% of him, it's if this an involuntary soft retirement from Apple for Ives.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by thinkling »

jkw wrote: post #93

He’s making more money at Apple than he will leading his own design agency. This makes me think that he no longer finds his work compelling at Apple. Or Apple decided it’s time for a new leader, but wants things to have a soft landing.

Since he was the Chief Design Officer at Apple, responsible for all design, I imagine his role came with a lot of management overhead. I'd wager a guess that maybe he wanted to ditch the corporate overhead (and spend more time directly working on design), and as a bonus he'll get to take on a wider range of projects. Also possible that he wanted to go back to the UK and that his firm will be located there.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by noir_lord »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #128
behnamoh wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And talk about the new $6000 Mac Pro which got memed a lot because of its astounding similarity to a grater. Although, I know this is not going to ruin Ive's legacy cause he's also been responsible for some great designs like iPhone 4 and aluminum MBP. update: I know it was designed like that due to air flow considerations. I just pointed out the fact that it seems the design team didn't get input from others, who IM…

As a person with knowledge of machining and who is rather technical, the "grater" design is honestly pretty appealing to me- I wish the New Pro's had filters, but that design looks cool . It does, at least, look better than the last PC I built.

I admire the work it took to build it but not the design.

I have a Coolermaster H500 (I wanted high air flow with filters as I have ambulatory fur producers (cats)), it’s a bit too RGB for me but other than that very very functional and was a dream to build inside.

Against that the Mac Pro doesn’t fair well on cost to function at all.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by johnminter »

jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

I, too, would like the option of a thicker laptop and my beloved magnetic break-away power connector. That has saved my bacon many times when my foot caught the cord. I assume that wold permit a thicker battery with a longer lifetime...

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by acomjean »

mstade wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

My experience with usb c is from people in my lab with usb c only MacBooks, looking to move files and borrow one of our extra drives, realize they don’t have the ubiquitous usb a and look for other solutions. Or trying to plug into a projector that has hdmi and 6 adapters but no usb c yet, then trying to get their presentation to another notebook..

I’ll keep my multi port Mac Pro till it falls apart at this point

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by kelp »

mistersquid wrote: post #117
jedberg wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing wrong with USB-C and the big trackpad is fine too, and I would love to have touchID on my 2015MBP. But getting rid of mag power and the USB-A ports, HDMI port, and SD card slot was a big step back. Maybe you don't ever need to present anything from your laptop, but if you talk to anyone who does, they will tell you how awful it is to not have an HDMI port. The USB-C to HDMI is the worst adapter I've ever seen…

To a large degree Apple is moving away from using wires altogether, and in the presentation space they appear to be doubling down on AirPlay 2. Neither advocating nor deprecating. Only observing.

This is what we do in our office. We use airplay or a Zoom screen share. Plugging in is a last resort. I never have to do that.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by filoleg »

threeseed wrote: post #156
Reedx wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That they removed MagSafe boggles the mind. The usability was objectively better than the replacement. You could easily plug it in even if blindfolded. And no problem when the cord got unexpectedly pulled or tripped on. Every time I plug in my new macbook I miss it.

USB-C is infinitely better than Magsafe. You can use any charger, use battery packs and any third party cable which means far more reliability and quality.

Can confirm, it has been great. No more running around the office trying to find another macbook user when I accidentally leave my charger at home. I just easily roll up to anyone using a newer Lenovo laptop (that charges with USB-C) and use their charger.

Ironically, it happens more often than not the other way around. Anecdote incoming. When I had to use a Lenovo laptop last month for a week as my on-call machine, the Lenovo charger refused to charge the laptop. It would register, because the power button would blink when I plugged it in, but the laptop would refuse to turn on even after an hour of charging. Plugged it into a macbook charger, and it turned on like a charm instantly.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by freehunter »

ericzawo wrote: post #3

A fitting name for Ive's new firm. Now perhaps Apple can get back to work on fixing the function part of their laptops, like, say, the keyboard.

I actually didn't see the name of the new company in the linked article. Turns out it's called LoveFrom.

https://www.wired.com/story/jony-ive-leaves-apple/

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