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Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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Much of the article is about Brian Goss's setup. Goss is not using ham radio. He is receiving satellite broadcasts and re-transmitting them with a goTenna device into the goTenna mesh network. goTenna is a Part 15 (unlicensed) device, like a Wi-Fi router or Bluetooth device. It does not transmit on Amateur Radio frequencies. Unless I missed something, there is no connection with ham radio here. The article also menti…

So, that GoTenna is basically a modern day Cybiko?

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

#22
post #20

Much of the article is about Brian Goss's setup. Goss is not using ham radio. He is receiving satellite broadcasts and re-transmitting them with a goTenna device into the goTenna mesh network. goTenna is a Part 15 (unlicensed) device, like a Wi-Fi router or Bluetooth device. It does not transmit on Amateur Radio frequencies. Unless I missed something, there is no connection with ham radio here. The article also menti…

It may be a violation if it involved a business transaction that was not related to ham radio equipment. Buying, selling and trading equipment related to ham radio is the only exception to the rule against business transactions that I am aware of.

The exception you're referring to is this one in Part 97.113 (3), which is part of a list of prohibited communications:

(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer. Amateur operators may, however, notify other amateur operators of the availability for sale or trade of apparatus normally used in an amateur station, provided that such activity is not conducted on a regular basis.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2002-title47-vol5/pd...

It appears that the exception is limitied to notifying other amateurs of equipment for sale or trade, not making the actual payment over the air. For example, if I got a one-time virtual credit card number and read it over the air to another amateur to pay for equipment, I don't believe that would fall under this exception, so it would be prohibited.

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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post #6

I don't think this is allowed under USA Amateur radio rules. > §97.113 Prohibited transmissions. > (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules ; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that commu…

Well it wouldn't be cyberpunk without breaking a few rules.

> Well it wouldn't be cyberpunk without breaking a few rules.

The title says _cypher_punk not _cyber_punk. But I'd misread it myself on the first glance.

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it wouldn't be cyberpunk without breaking a few rules.

> Well it wouldn't be cyberpunk without breaking a few rules. The title says _cypher_punk not _cyber_punk. But I'd misread it myself on the first glance.

I actually did notice that, but I decided to say cyberpunk anyways because I related more to that term.

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Interesting article, but I think Wired has to be one of my least favorite places to read something on the web. The performance is bad, there is popping/jarring of the viewport as content shifts around, intrusive pop ups, and just a generally high amount of bloat. I’m starting to feel like the old man shaking his fist at the clouds, but can we just go back to more simple pages without all this cruft?

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

#26
post #6

I don't think this is allowed under USA Amateur radio rules. > §97.113 Prohibited transmissions. > (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules ; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that commu…

> §97.111 Authorized transmissions. > (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: > (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; > (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; > (3) Telecommand; > (4) Transmissions necessa…

> except that communications directly related to the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the event.

Are transactions or "coins" property? Wouldn't this exception cover the case where you've lost internet "no other means of communication" and are protecting your transactions?

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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post #25

Interesting article, but I think Wired has to be one of my least favorite places to read something on the web. The performance is bad, there is popping/jarring of the viewport as content shifts around, intrusive pop ups, and just a generally high amount of bloat. I’m starting to feel like the old man shaking his fist at the clouds, but can we just go back to more simple pages without all this cruft?

I don't have any of the issues you are experiencing. I'm using Firefox, AdBlock Origin, Privacy Badger and containers and I don't see any ads, the page is plenty fast, no popping/jarring content.

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

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post #15

I find it funny that so often so many commenters on "Hacker" News are terrified of breaking the rules... Also, there's plenty of world outside of USA.

While I agree with your first comment, most ham radio rules are international.

I know next to nothing about ham radio, but I’m curious... who would enforce the rules at an international level?

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

#29
post #6

I don't think this is allowed under USA Amateur radio rules. > §97.113 Prohibited transmissions. > (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules ; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that commu…

> §97.111 Authorized transmissions. > (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: > (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; > (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; > (3) Telecommand; > (4) Transmissions necessa…

But the information bulletins must be on the topic of amateur radio: Definition in 97.3.

Re: Cypherpunks Tapping Bitcoin via Ham Radio

#30
post #6

I don't think this is allowed under USA Amateur radio rules. > §97.113 Prohibited transmissions. > (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules ; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that commu…

Or else what?
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