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Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by traek »

alexnewman wrote: post #151
bubblethink wrote: post #69

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>There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing I would be more open to trying/using brave if someone respectable packaged it. As of writing, not a single distro packages it. It would lower my barrier to entry a lot if it were packaged by debian/fedora/f-droid. It doesn't imply anything serious, just that it can be built from source and that it passed the distr…

Hi, in my sparetime I help some of the linux packaging for Brave. We are looking for people to help us do this very thing. We provide packaged for deb, rpm, and snap. I maintain the snaps for brave but have been disappointed with the performance. If you are willing to test an maintain distros we'd be more than happy to get you involved.

Brave is a private, for-profit company that has raised $42 million in venture funding—out of curiosity why do you bother doing free work for them in your spare time?

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

dymk wrote: post #98
hjek wrote: post #66

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Well, that's good! Might give Brave a spin then. Just curious, what exact sentence(s) from the above links to the Brave website do you see contradicting this claim about "shadow wallets"? (if that's the correct wording) When I read something like this, it almost sound like they're making wallets (without necessarily asking beforehand): > If you own a website, or even just a blog or other sub-domain on a hosting site,…

Yes, they created wallets without asking beforehand, replaced the ads you monetize your site with with their own BAT system, and held funds hostage unless you buy into their system.

If I feel you're owed a token, but you don't have a wallet in they currency, what should I do:

- make you a wallet and let you claim it later?

- keep the token?

Neither of these constitute a hostage situation. There's no buying in except the time it takes to move that token to an exchange and turn it into dollars or kgs of cocaine or whatever.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by Fat_Thor »

smt88 wrote: post #123
justsee wrote: post #94

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Switched from Firefox to Brave in the last year across devices and not looking back (though I do miss containers!). Blocking ads and trackers by default is pretty much essential in 2019. The myth about ad replacement doesn't seem to want to die though! There is no ad replacement, though the roadmap says at some time in the future publishers who opt-in will have the option to have their ad-slots filled by Brave's priv…

I just use Firefox with uBlock Origin on all my devices. Better blocking than Brave and no concerns about future monetization.

After finding out Firefox monetized its new tab page with sponsored Pocket ads[1], I'm not too thrilled about it. Firefox collects plenty of telemetry data too and it's unclear whether or not they use it for their pockets ads. With past scandals from Firefox, I'm would not be surprised if they do.

[1] https://getpocket.com/sponsor

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

sp332 wrote: post #86
mintplant wrote: post #35

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> replacing ads > They'll s/page_ads/brave_ads/ My point was that this literally does not happen. Brave does not insert ads into pages, ever, it only removes them. I'll admit I'm skeptical of the whole cryto-currency model, too, but I try to keep my points factually accurate.

They got a ton of attention when they first launched for their idea of replacing ads. See point two on this archive from early 2017: https://web.archive.org/web/20170129165028/https://www.brave... Now they have a disclaimer at the top https://www.brave.com/about_ad_replacement.html but honestly, until today I thought they were still doing it.

They aren't. The brave ads appear as a system notification at fixed intervals whether or not you're browsing. They're as disconnected from your browsing activity as they could possibly be.

The only connection is that your browsing activity determines how much each content provider is owed.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by reilly3000 »

mintplant wrote: post #15
dymk wrote: post #6

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They replace other ad network ads with their own ~ads~ crypto currency . They monetize the content of others and don't tell them. If you have a youtube channel, they will swap out ads and collect the ad revenue without telling the channel that they're doing so. I'm not particularly impressed with their business. In fact I'm pretty disgusted with it.

This is untrue, as far as I'm aware. Brave blocks ads and trackers by default, and you can opt into a separate "Brave Rewards" program which pays you in crypto-currency tokens in exchange for receiving ads via push notifications and the New Tab page (not inline with web content). https://brave.com/brave-ads-launch/ Users can then choose to contribute some or all of those funds back to the publishers/creators they vis…

I’ve been around the ad ecosystem for a decade, and for the better part of it I’ve been convinced that the audience needs a full seat at the table and a piece of the ad transaction if advertising is going to have a future at all on the web.

Brave and BAT is the most credible solution to this problem I’ve ever seen.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by keyle »

justsee wrote: post #94
robbrown451 wrote: post #41

I'm impressed with Brave. I've started using it as my primary browser (after a couple false starts a year or so ago) and it has all the best of Chrome without the worst. There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing (replacing ads with their own). I'm glad they are giving us a choice, though, and exploring different options for sites being able to makes some m…

Switched from Firefox to Brave in the last year across devices and not looking back (though I do miss containers!). Blocking ads and trackers by default is pretty much essential in 2019. The myth about ad replacement doesn't seem to want to die though! There is no ad replacement, though the roadmap says at some time in the future publishers who opt-in will have the option to have their ad-slots filled by Brave's priv…

I'm going to plug 'ungoogled-chromium' here as well as I personally found it better and more stable than Brave.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by mindfulhack »

It's sad how, although I personally prefer to support Firefox by using it, I have still stuck with Google's Chrome due to a speed/sleekness factor which I can't quite put my finger on, that Firefox has never been able to overcome in my mind since fully switching over to Chrome several years ago.

It's little touches like how you can't re-order extension buttons with a basic mouse drag - no, you have to go into 'Customize...', and that's so clunky and 2004. They have some more work to do to really make it competitive with the mighty Chrome.

So after all that time, Brave is the first browser registering my interest due to these regular news stories. I still use Google services, but I don't like their current dominant position in shaping how the web works. That's too much power.

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