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Re: Raspberry Pi 4

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I have to confess that I have never even booted up my Pi-3. Now I wonder if it is worth booting up the Pi-3 or should I wait till I get my hands on the Pi-4. That way I don't have to think of upgrading.

The Pi 3 is no less usable than it was before the announcement. Why bother getting a Pi 4 when you haven't found a use for your 3 yet? I still use a Pi 2 with no complaints. One downside to the 4 is that it is moving from the low power to laptop realm in terms of power consumption which was my main interest in them. If top performance is what you care about, the Raspberry Pi is the wrong place to go looking for it.

My growing collection of rpis includes an rpi2 with a usb wifi dongle that still gets a fair amount of use. Mostly for experiments, but truth be told, it's not an old slouch.

These pi models are all tailor-made options. I think its a mistake to think in terms of "older models" when you consider the lower power requirement and higher physical stability of the rpi2 (doesn't overheat even without a fan, for example). The Zeros are less powerful but still belong in the range because of exactly that.

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I just put together a Plex server with the RockPro64 4gb ram, PCI3x4 with 2 sata ports. I booted it up with Dietpi and things are running smooth! The board is a bit more expensive, but you can probably get it faster than the pi4 at the moment. The Dietpi community seems to be pretty great, any issues I ran into were answered pretty quickly

As to properly balance out this review, what exactly were the issues you had that needed to be answered by a community for the RockPro64? The RPi seems to have a slew of things that just work on it out of the box, and if there are issues, 99.9% of the time you can find the solution with a quick Google. Very curious to understand what type of issues something like the RockPro64 (which has appeared numerously in this t…

I'm looking at buying the raspberry pi 4 right now, as I've been thinking of getting something to replace my odroid-c1 for a while now.

My understanding is that the RockPro64 has pcie slots on it, which allows Sata boards so you can connect drives directly without usb. Personally, I'm more interested in the odroid-h2, with the native Sata. Unfortunately, it costs far more ($111 without ram) and has no wireless connectivity built in.

Re: Raspberry Pi 4

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Can't wait to try Nerves ( https://nerves-project.org/ ) on this. Waiting for the US-based devs to wake up to find out what they think. This is a stunning upgrade in my eyes. Going to evaluate how it would work as a dev desktop too. Just mount it behind a monitor. iHackintosh?

The Raspberry Pi has an ARM processor, while macOS requires an x86_64 processor, so you could not build a Hackintosh. One could conceivably run iOS, as enough is understood to emulate the OS on similar hardware (see https://alephsecurity.com/2019/06/17/xnu-qemu-arm64-1/).

Re: Raspberry Pi 4

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Maybe. It has a lot of CPU power relative to IO bandwidth, it should do ok in pure software. Hmm, anyone know if the VideoCore VI would be any good for crypto?

Quick Googling [0] revealed VideoCore VI might have at least some support for Vulkan and/or OpenCL. If this turns out to be true, then yes, VideoCore VI might be able to function as a crypto-coprocessor. We'll see. [0]: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Broadcom...

People have also written some native code for the VC IV in assembler (both QPU and VPU) in the past.

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> Raspberry Pi 3 media center Just read theverge review on how the Pi struggles to play a video full screen, even if resolution is 480p. How are then people using it as a media center?

What review did you read? Playing video is likely the only thing the PI 3 does really well; even most H265 FHD do play without stuttering on the 3+ although we're close to the board limits. Are you sure the writer didn't use the board the wrong way? Some people still believe that videos should be streamed after being transcoded because that is the only way to watch them on their ridiculously limited smart TV which la…

It wasn't The Verge that originally said the Pi4 struggled to play YouTube videos [1], it was Tom's Hardware [2].

Tom’s Hardware’s review notes that the hardware is able to handle many everyday tasks such as web browsing with up to 15 Chromium tabs, light image editing using GIMP, and document and spreadsheet work using LibreOffice. Unsurprisingly, the sub-$100 miniature PC has its limits. It reportedly struggles with full screen video playback from YouTube for example, even if you turn down the resolution to 480p.

Tom's Hardware were using a pre-release OS so it's possible the issues with video playback were caused by this?

It’s important to note that, at launch time, some important Raspberry Pi software doesn’t yet work on the Pi 4. To run Pi 4, you’ll need to download a brand new build of the Raspbian OS, Raspbian Buster. And not everything runs in Buster yet. During testing, we found numerous Python libraries or other required packages that weren’t compatible with the new OS.

My biggest problems involved video playback. If I wanted to watch a YouTube video, I had to keep it in a window, because even in 480p resolution, it was jerky at full screen. The other task I’d like to perform is playing retro games, but as of this writing, the Retropie package of emulators doesn’t work with Pi 4.

During extensive hands-on testing, I found that, while the 4K at 30 Hz is tolerable, little things like the movement of the mouse pointer are a bit sluggish. If you have a 4K screen, you’re definitely better off going for the 60 Hz mode, but note that the added voltage may also cause your CPU to get hot and throttle more easily.

While surfing the web, looking at still images and just enjoying all the extra screen real estate of 4K is great, video playback is the Raspberry Pi 4’s Achille’s heel, at least as of this writing. Whether we were attempting to stream a 4K video or use a downloaded file, we never got a smooth, workable 4K experience, either in Raspbian Buster or LibreElec, an OS that runs the Kodi media player. Several H.264 encoded videos, including Tears of Steel, did not play at all or showed as a jumble of colours. Even the sample jelly fish videos that the folks at Kodi recommended for my testing appeared as still pictures with no movement. Clearly, there’s a lot of optimization that still needs to be done both on the OS and software side to make the Raspberry Pi 4 capable of playing 4K video.

Unfortunately, even streaming 1080p YouTube videos is a challenge at this point. Running at 1080p resolution, full screen video trailer for Stranger Things showed obvious jerkiness. However, the playback was smooth when I watched the same clip in a smaller window. The same problem occurred, even when I dropped the stream’s resolution down to 480p.

Playing offline 1080p videos works well, provided your screen is at 1920 x 1080 or lower resolution. A downloaded trailer of Avenger’s Endgame was perfectly smooth when I watched it using the VLC player.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/6/24/18715211/r...

[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-4-b,6193.h...

Re: Raspberry Pi 4

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Are you using web apps or presentation software for signage?

We use Screenly. It's rather basic and managed from a cloud account that can see the devices. There is no SSH or other "admin" access beyond the Web GUI that allows you to name/rename/remove and group screens based on their onsite locations for common signage. We've had issues with them and I'm looking for software to replace Screenly that will run on Raspbian or other Unix-like ARM OS.

Author of Screenly here. Please ping me on Twitter (@vpetersson) to see how we can help.

Re: Raspberry Pi 4

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https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi...

I can't read that article because Medium has decided that I have to login to do so (and possibly sign up). Needless to say, I won't be reading that link. Wordpress.com wouldn't have done that with your content. Just saying.

Hi, author of the piece here! You're right that WordPress wouldn't have given you a popup before you could read, for free, the article I spent a couple of months working on. It also wouldn't have provided me with any income to support creating the article in the first place.

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I've got kids to feed and bills to pay. If you really don't want to click an X on the login prompt and read it all for free, I can give you my payment details and sell you a PDF copy...

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We do have another room, that's slightly larger but it's a bit bleak. And weirdly it's a more fussy room to furnish. The smaller size is better in the winter. The old brick terraces aren't that warm. In large houses people can gravitate to smaller rooms for that reason. Personally I'd like a large room that I could bring the furniture in from the sides. Lucky to even have a house to live in to be honest, so can't rea…

I looked up some pictures; would you say this is representative? https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/969757/41efc6817b/modern-... If so, you're right; that's pretty small. Is it just a matter of acclimation? Also, can you clarify what you mean that you're lucky to have a house? I wasn't aware of a major homeless problem in Europe.

That's larger than mine. Sizes are getting smaller. Can't comment for the rest of Europe but the UK has quite a bad homeless problem, it's very visible at the moment. Rents are prohibitively high, and getting onto the housing ladder is very difficult. Small houses - even semi-detached bungalows around our way are at least £300k (edit: oops missed a 0 originally!). The housing stock is shockingly bad in the UK, and very expensive.
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