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Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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many of the applications for which you would want to run wine (e.g. gaming, the primary use) are performance-heavy. adding a layer of a vm is substantially more performance overhead.

That doesn't have to be true with hardware passthrough.

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Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

many of the applications for which you would want to run wine (e.g. gaming, the primary use) are performance-heavy. adding a layer of a vm is substantially more performance overhead.

That doesn't have to be true with hardware passthrough.

You still run Windows in VM. Some people switched to Linux to get away from that.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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I'm curious about Wine's usage and relevance at this point in the Linux desktop story. My assumption is that Linux users(myself included) that use Windows applications(not games), tend to just run a VM in seamless mode for Windows functionality. I would be curious if others had any insight(anecdotal or otherwise) about Wine usage these days.

I exclusively use Linux for work and personal use, and I only use Wine for games. It works surprisingly well, but sometimes requires some arcane tweaking (which you can google, thankfully). I can't see myself using Wine for anything else.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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post #7

I'm curious about Wine's usage and relevance at this point in the Linux desktop story. My assumption is that Linux users(myself included) that use Windows applications(not games), tend to just run a VM in seamless mode for Windows functionality. I would be curious if others had any insight(anecdotal or otherwise) about Wine usage these days.

Canonical or other distros should have stats about the wine and 32bit lib downloads, I would like to see those numbers too.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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post #7

I'm curious about Wine's usage and relevance at this point in the Linux desktop story. My assumption is that Linux users(myself included) that use Windows applications(not games), tend to just run a VM in seamless mode for Windows functionality. I would be curious if others had any insight(anecdotal or otherwise) about Wine usage these days.

I run mIRC on Wine.

I know, I know, there are plenty of Linux native IRC clients. In fact, mIRC has been quite stagnant lately. But to me, its UI is still unsurpassed (20 years of muscle memory also help), and it has less latency than alternatives (even with Wine).

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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Yeah - me too. As someone who's always needed Photoshop and Illustrator in my workflow I have tried to use wine on multiple occasions with no success. Never once was I able to get it configured to the point of usability/stability. VMware Workstation is the only thing that's ever scratched the itch. I've always thought that Wine is just a compatibility layer for games and entertainment because actual professional soft…

why not GIMP and Inkscape?

I find asking these kinds of questions to people using professional software like that is akin to asking a professional c++ programmer "why not lisp?".

Imagine you spend a career training on something and random people just tell you to do something else.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

#27

WINE needs 32 bit support. The bulk of windows programs that people still care about are from the 32 bit era, and as they point out many 64 bit apps use 32 bit installers. Maybe it's time for x86 box like DOSbox.

> Maybe it's time for x86 box like DOSbox

...or Virtualbox.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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post #7

I'm curious about Wine's usage and relevance at this point in the Linux desktop story. My assumption is that Linux users(myself included) that use Windows applications(not games), tend to just run a VM in seamless mode for Windows functionality. I would be curious if others had any insight(anecdotal or otherwise) about Wine usage these days.

I still run LTSpice on Linux using Wine. That's about it though.

With the advent of WSL on Windows and my professional need to use both Linux and Windows, I don't have a lot of reasons to use Wine anymore, or desktop Linux for that matter. Windows + WSL is good enough, and better than the other way around of Linux + Wine or a VM. I fear Wine will become more and more irrelevant as time passes. Killing 32bit support doesn't help them any.

Re: Wine Developers Concerned with Ubuntu Dropping 32-Bit Support

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah - me too. As someone who's always needed Photoshop and Illustrator in my workflow I have tried to use wine on multiple occasions with no success. Never once was I able to get it configured to the point of usability/stability. VMware Workstation is the only thing that's ever scratched the itch. I've always thought that Wine is just a compatibility layer for games and entertainment because actual professional soft…

why not GIMP and Inkscape?

Not sure why you're being downvoted. This is a legitimate question. Although my sibling comment might offer an explanation to your downvotes.

Edit: HN's really gone downhill. I thought we didn't downvote with feelings around here? All I did was point out that it's a legitimate question for people who don't have much experience with Photoshop, GIMP, etc.

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