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Why Hong Kong Is Still Marching

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Re: Why Hong Kong Is Still Marching

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I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

What about take time back to 9th, June. The time the first protest happening, almost every famous media reported this but except Chinese. Is it wired? And take a look at the links you chose, I don’t think it maybe a fair stand view because of already being defined as a riot.

Fair stand view would be too much a luxury for those media, but the tone isn’t that aggressive as CCP used to be (like calling them “terrorist” or “separatism”)

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It's usually viewed as a protective measure more than a mechanism of oppression. And it is protective. If you believe that widespread dissidence could lead to the collapse of your government then preventing that is a necessary evil to ensure your own well being. So, yeah, most mainlanders are aware of the censorship but it's not always viewed as inherently bad. And not just out of fear of being targeted or something.…

>We allow similar censorship in the US (of things like extremist propaganda or hate speech) with a similar justification. The difference is that this is private companies doing it of their own volition and not by government demand. The US government can't do anything about you hosting a website and posting extremist propaganda/hate speech on it. (the exception being speech which is _likely_ to cause _imminent lawless…

> The difference is that this is private companies doing it of their own volition and not by government demand.

Is this really a meaningful difference if the end result is the same?

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It cannot: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Union . Texas in fact voted to secede during the civil war, in a public referendum where secession got 75% of the vote. (Or course, it should be noted that the 30% of the population that was enslaved could not vote.) After Texas was defeated in the civil war, it was governed by a governor appointed by the union president for five years until it was readmitted to th…

The Texas secession movement doesn't claim a right to secede. Texas retains the right to split into five states. They plan to use the threat of adding 8 right-leaning senators to the US senate to convince democrats to let them leave.

Texas demographics are changing. I don't know if they would be able to add eight right senators now, and definitely not in the future. Of course that may depend on a definion of right (right of center or right of Bernie) .

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I’m from china mainland, and I stand for these protesters. At least, I don’t want them lose the right of fighting for their rights. And btw, even such huge protest happening, there is no report, no discussion in China, even message left on SNS also get censored or vanished. Terrifying. Edit: apologize for uncertain words, it needs add a time limitation. The first protest was happening at 9th June and all Chinese medi…

I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

Don't bother, the echo chamber here is pretty bad

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The Texas secession movement doesn't claim a right to secede. Texas retains the right to split into five states. They plan to use the threat of adding 8 right-leaning senators to the US senate to convince democrats to let them leave.

Texas demographics are changing. I don't know if they would be able to add eight right senators now, and definitely not in the future. Of course that may depend on a definion of right (right of center or right of Bernie) .

Yeah. It's unlikely to work.

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I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

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Propaganda? You mean like CNN and Foxnews?

Good luck finding true independent and fair media.

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I’m from china mainland, and I stand for these protesters. At least, I don’t want them lose the right of fighting for their rights. And btw, even such huge protest happening, there is no report, no discussion in China, even message left on SNS also get censored or vanished. Terrifying. Edit: apologize for uncertain words, it needs add a time limitation. The first protest was happening at 9th June and all Chinese medi…

I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

> I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this

Personal attacks will get you banned here. Commenters on HN must remain kind to one another (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), regardless of how wrong they think they are. They also must assume good faith.

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I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

Shuhhhhhhhh you break the social norm

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Also don’t assume Chinese people are like brainless idiots, people READ the news and will wonder what ACTUALLY happened. Ironically, though silently, most educated Chinese people won’t trust official newspaper that much. so thanks no worries

What can I say, these people are brainwashed from birth to think that what they have is good. Once we put enough economic pressure on them the paper tiger will fold.

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I don't know what is your motivation to use a throwaway account to publicly lie on this... Don't get hurt too much for seeing the reports below that can be publicly verified by everyone. Coverage from sohu.com, one of the largest news sites - https://www.sohu.com/a/320190989_114731 http://www.sohu.com/a/320742090_223357 http://www.sohu.com/a/320247941_419342 Coverage by tencent's QQ News: https://new.qq.com/cmsn/TWF2…

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Lol there are no fair coverage period, you just choose to believe things that fit your political view
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