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WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

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I'm fed up with those people who think they understand China simply because they have read a sci-fi novel written by an Englishman before modern China has been founded. China's system is so complicated and so far from a heavy-handed police state.

I am neither American nor Chinese, but there is a qualitative difference. In the USA, i can say whatever I damn please. In China, I can not talk about certain topics. Whether or not both CCP and FBI bug my phone, I do not know. However, China is super oppressive when it comes to freedom.

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2 minutes with a moka? I seriously need to step up my game. 1 minute: hang grind fresh beans 1 minute: take out moka pot, fill with water, put coffee in, put on stove 3-6 minutes depending on ambient temp: moka boils 1 minute: pour cup, wash out moka pot Moka is such a pain. I drip now for time efficiency.

If you can afford it and care about grind quality, there are much quicker grinders out there. The Baratza Sette 270 grinds with fantastic precision compared to other grinders on the market (even the Vario), and goes through 19g of beans in about 5 seconds.

I currently use a hario hand grinder (ceramic bur). I imagine the grind consistency improves with an electric, but I’m curious if it has a noticeable effect taste wise.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

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How does it handle people who are unable to speak?

probably as well as china deals with people in wheelchairs

thankfully probably not as bad as the (Uyghur muslims)[https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/liam-sigler/panel-2-mil...]

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> Defending China, Fuck the Chinese govt. > I hope the Chinese people rise up one day and figure out a better form of governance for themselves. Besides the immature, flippant impulse to challenge authority that seems quite prevalent in the West, why should the Chinese feel compelled to pursue the path of destruction you're advocating for? The CCP, for all its imperfections, has lifted 850 million illiterate peasants…

> In general, the people of China are very happy with the progress that's being made (particularly true of the rural population who have witnessed in real-time, continuous improvements to their standard of living). "All for the common good." Didn't even realize that movie was a documentary about China. I find it appalling that you find the Chinese government even remotely okay, the Chinese government violates people'…

> I find it appalling that you find the Chinese government even remotely okay, the Chinese government violates people's basic human rights for just simply being a part of a minority.

> The assertion that it's not a free country and horrific the worst way possible when you're a minority is absolutely true.

It’s not absolutely true. I suggest you consult some independent sources for a more nuanced perspective other than that promulgated by mainstream media. There are dozens of ethnic minorities (yes, even Muslim minorities) that are prospering just fine along with the rest of China. There are even remote places where the CCP actively funnels tourists to help them bolster incomes. It’s in their best interest to do so because poverty and unemployment leads to instability. It’s most definitely not in their best interest to “violates people's basic human rights for just simply being a part of a minority”. What possible good would that do?

I find the Chinese government more than okay from a purely utilitarian standpoint. Is it perfect? No, far from it. Has it been a net good for its people? Undeniably.

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They still take Visa, and don't insist on an authoritarian government's surveillance app.

What do you call the CCTV cameras everywhere other than "an authoritarian government's surveillance"?

Nice strawman

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Facebook, Google, and Apple would all do the same thing WeChat/AliPay did if regulations in the West moved faster and were more accommodating. Nobody mandated the author to order delivery, follow social media, buy movie tickets, do online shopping, pay rent, use bikeshare, call cabs, etc, etc, etc. through WeChat. They are, for the most part, services owned by companies other than Tencent. WeChat just compiles a gian…

No, you are not going to get arrested in America for making a joke about George Washington. Enough with the irresponsible moral equivalence arguments. There are glaringly material differences between 'Google software scanning your mails to target ads' and 'the police having $2/hour folks reading private chats to arrest you for totally arbitrary reasons'.

>No, you are not going to get arrested in America for making a joke about George Washington.

If someone leaks you joking about repeating a historical terrorist attack the chances that the police at least pay you a visit is very high, in the United States and other Western countries.

There's actually a whole array of news articles you can find on your search engine of choice about arrests after people made social media posts about threatening politicians. Which I might add, joke or not is very reasonable.

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No, you are not going to get arrested in America for making a joke about George Washington. Enough with the irresponsible moral equivalence arguments. There are glaringly material differences between 'Google software scanning your mails to target ads' and 'the police having $2/hour folks reading private chats to arrest you for totally arbitrary reasons'.

>No, you are not going to get arrested in America for making a joke about George Washington. If someone leaks you joking about repeating a historical terrorist attack the chances that the police at least pay you a visit is very high, in the United States and other Western countries. There's actually a whole array of news articles you can find on your search engine of choice about arrests after people made social medi…

Joke about a person vs planning a terrorist attack

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>No, you are not going to get arrested in America for making a joke about George Washington. If someone leaks you joking about repeating a historical terrorist attack the chances that the police at least pay you a visit is very high, in the United States and other Western countries. There's actually a whole array of news articles you can find on your search engine of choice about arrests after people made social medi…

Joke about a person vs planning a terrorist attack

and authorities don't know whether you joke or not, so this falls squarely into the category of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes", and again this is the same in the US. Quite a lot of people have been joked about killing Obama, and got a pretty quick visit by the police as a result. This isn't unique to China and there's nothing wrong with it.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

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I'm fed up with those people who think they understand China simply because they have read a sci-fi novel written by an Englishman before modern China has been founded. China's system is so complicated and so far from a heavy-handed police state.

I am neither American nor Chinese, but there is a qualitative difference. In the USA, i can say whatever I damn please. In China, I can not talk about certain topics. Whether or not both CCP and FBI bug my phone, I do not know. However, China is super oppressive when it comes to freedom.

It sounds like you have never been to US or China.
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