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The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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If I were the parent I would've phrased that differently. But, as long as we're being pedantic, eating from plants is possible without killing the organism.

Animals also.

Yes but with animals the parts you harvest don't grow back.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#102

Not mentioned in this article, but the Gardein brand vegan fish fillets and crab cakes are excellent and already available at grocery stores.

Hi, how does it compare to the nutritional value?

I saw that that the 'The Impossible Burger' contains near equal nutritional value of real meat; does the veg fish fillets and crab cakes you speak of contain Vitamin D3 and other essential vitamins seen mostly only in sea food?

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Eating carbohydrates spikes your blood sugar and therefore insulin response, which has several problems: one, it makes you hungry again very quickly, and makes your energy levels spike and dip more than if you avoid them. Enough simple carbohydrates cause diabetes. It is also very easy to eat a large number of calories via carbohydrate. Essentially, carbs make you fat. I can personally observe in myself that if I eat…

This is very black and white and borderline incorrect. There's nothing inherently bad about carbohydrates. Eating anything will make you more fat; simple carbs are just easy to eat. Unrefined carbs like in potatoes and (whole)wheat and oatmeal etc. are not bad; those foods provide many good nutrients and do not cause the negative carb effects you mentioned. It's the same as fruits containing sugar (which is a carbohy…

Potatoes have a pretty high glycemic index and glycemic load compared to whole wheat and oatmeal.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were the parent I would've phrased that differently. But, as long as we're being pedantic, eating from plants is possible without killing the organism.

Animals also.

Not profitably. Cows can't be kept recently-pregnant without way too many calves; half of chicks are useless males.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

On the contrary, to me it would be a net positive if a restaurant was going to advertise their sources. I for one am highly skeptical of the perverse incentive between restaurantees and restauranteurs—restauranteurs being incentivized to buy the cheapest ingredients possible to minimize cost. That doesn’t align with my goal as a consumer to nourish myself with the best quality food. If the restaurant can assure me they only use organic/high quality ingredients that gives me some peace of mind and is a +1 in my book.

And this isn’t just fearmongering. For most restaurants it is uneconomical to cook with anything but the cheapest vegetable oils which are guaranteed to oxidate/become carcinogenic at the temperatures required to cook the food they’re serving. So if you eat out often, being informed about a restaurants sourcing and cooking habits is definitely worth knowing about.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#107

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What is the problem with carbohydrates? If it is the refined grain part in pasta and bread, then there are already solutions: whole wheat products. Who do you thing would go for the beyond wheat products?

Eating carbohydrates spikes your blood sugar and therefore insulin response, which has several problems: one, it makes you hungry again very quickly, and makes your energy levels spike and dip more than if you avoid them. Enough simple carbohydrates cause diabetes. It is also very easy to eat a large number of calories via carbohydrate. Essentially, carbs make you fat. I can personally observe in myself that if I eat…

> I can personally observe in myself that if I eat a chocolate bar in the morning, I will be more hungry in an hour or two than if I had eaten nothing at all.

Fasting is a powerful thing! So is refined sugar.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#108

To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

What about ordering Mary’s free range chicken? Lots of restaurants advertise that on the menu. Sounds better than a normal chicken sandwich. Or Coca Cola braised short ribs from your favorite food truck? Sounds better than cola braised short ribs.

Some people wouldn’t even consider a veggie burger on the menu, but an impossible burger? Sure. It’s about _branding_.

The first time I tried impossible meat I was eating dinner with my old boss and he’d asked if I had heard about impossible meat. I’d heard about it but never tried it, so I ordered it and it was honestly better than I expected.

I never would have tried it if it wasn’t for word of mouth marketing because it was on the menu. Restaurants are in the business of selling food. It’s their job to make items on their menu sound appealing. Just like those Michelin star restaurants including ingredients I’ve never heard of, let alone can’t pronounce. I could never find that ingredient at my local store. Maybe I should try it.

Based on your tone it sounds like you’ve never tried “imitation meat” as you describe it but i can see why people are hyping it. I eat plenty of meat but have started buying beyond meat patties at the store every now and then. It’s magnitudes better than your run-of-the-mill black bean veggie burger.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#109

To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

Agreed, all other things being equal - a restaurant serving me a product that someone else made, rather than something they created from ingredients is strictly worse.

Things like beer are a bit more understandable - not every restaurant can have a brewery out the back. (although the ones that do are pretty nice)

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

#110

To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

On the contrary, to me it would be a net positive if a restaurant was going to advertise their sources. I for one am highly skeptical of the perverse incentive between restaurantees and restauranteurs—restauranteurs being incentivized to buy the cheapest ingredients possible to minimize cost. That doesn’t align with my goal as a consumer to nourish myself with the best quality food. If the restaurant can assure me th…

Sure, but I still expect the things a restaurant is sourcing to be ingredients, not products.
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