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Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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I’m really into the dark future of DRM enforcement drones flying around cities listening for illegal streaming.

I am not sure how many people outside the UK are aware of this, but a similar thing has existed there for nearly 70 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_detector_van

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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

> a signal that their product offering doesn't actually match demand Is it? Why would a smart businessman (the bar owner) pay more for a product when a cheaper alternative (pirating) exists?

Because "smart" isn't a synonym for a "criminal".

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For the same reason they don’t stock their bar with beer stolen from the brewery?

You can't steal information

> You can't steal information

We already have legal terms for information that is property, namely intellectual property, the theft of which is routinely prosecuted (regardless of ideological beliefs on the nature of information).

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Someone I met tried to figure out how to actually legally stream the NBA playoffs recently - apparently there's basically no way to do so without an existing cable subscription or without paying for the entire season. I'm guessing the licensing structure around all of that would make the US tax code look readable, but the result is that it's effectively impossible to decide you want to watch a specific game on a comp…

I'm currently watching game seven of the Stanley cup final from a questionable source, simply because I have no way of doing so legally in my current locale. I would gladly pay for the privilege of watching a high definition stream of this game, but I have no reasonable means of doing so. VPN might work, but I have never had much luck with this in the past. Oh well, don't take my money then..

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Streaming "cable" providers (Sling, Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, etc.)can get you up and running in minutes and usually come with a 7 day free trial. It doesn't solve every issue with trying to get legal, but it at least solves the "sit around all day for the installer to show up" problem.

> Streaming "cable" providers (Sling, Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, etc.)can get you up and running in minutes and usually come with a 7 day free trial. It doesn't solve every issue with trying to get legal, but it at least solves the "sit around all day for the installer to show up" problem. Doesn't sling require a cable subscription?

Sling is a subscription service, like Netflix, but instead of a library of movies and shows, you subscribe to Live TV streams of channels normally only available from a cable TV subscription. It's all fully legal and above board, as they pay the same licensing fees that a Comcast would.

As the other poster mentioned, like Netflix, you need an internet connection. If you want to watch it on your TV screen, a set-top box like a Roku or AppleTV is worthwhile but you could always plug your laptop into the TV instead.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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IP law in this country need to go away. It doesn't help the market as a whole, it doesn't encourage content creation it encourages legal spending and manipulation. You shouldn't get paid for having and idea you should get paid and be excited to create content to be first to market and have an consumer base. If somebody can come along and do it better there should be no legal barriers. The result is a highly competiti…

One of the strongest tools you have as an individual or small business is IP law. It means that the big incumbent that you're trying to take on can't just swoop in and copy what differentiates you from them, and eat you alive.

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One of those cases where both sides are in the mud. La Liga is struggling with piracy of games for long. They have been trying to make money of their product (football essentially features two of the greatest players to play the game in last 10 years, only one now) but struggle due to their whacky ideas and no care about fans. Sample this: The timings of games are as early as 12PM (spanish siesta is at 4PM) and as la…

>(Spanish siesta is at 4PM)

That's ridiculous.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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> But since the cable prices are too high, and nothing on free to air, they have to in order to attract crowds. Somehow I find it hard to believe a business can't afford cable. Even if it costs $200 / month, surely they ought to be able to cover that.

We're talking about Spain. They recently emerged from a gruelling recession, their shadow economy makes up an estimated 20% of real GDP, and competition ran their profits into the ground. Even if small businesses have the cash, there's no incentive for them to spend it, and they're probably still in hoarding-cash mode.

This is Spain. No matter what, bars are always full here, and there is over 8 bars per streets at avarage.

Also, Soccer is the true religion here, not Christianity.

Add Soccer and bars and you get basically what truly the average Spaniard does love from the Pyrenees to the Gibraltar Strait.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This will lead to an arms race with deploying cellular, GPS and wifi jammers. You can order them online right now for low prices, at low power they are very unlikely to ever be investigated. https://www.jammer-store.com/gps-blockers-jammers/ Do note things like this are HIGHLY illegal, and carry pretty insane fines if you are caught.

That's how you get an empty bar in Spain. We love to drink moderately and socialize, but FFS, the young people loves to use either WhatsAPP or talk with their relatives just in case.

Also on the insane fines, these can be huge in Spain. Do not ever fuck communications there.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

True to that, as an example the NBA league pass provides a good experience for a decent price.
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