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The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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What is the problem with carbohydrates? If it is the refined grain part in pasta and bread, then there are already solutions: whole wheat products. Who do you thing would go for the beyond wheat products?

People who know that it is a myth that whole grains are healthy?

From a carb point of view it is.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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What is the problem with carbohydrates? If it is the refined grain part in pasta and bread, then there are already solutions: whole wheat products. Who do you thing would go for the beyond wheat products?

People who want to be healthy. I get fat if I even look a piece of bread or bowl of pasta. But I sure do miss the taste and would love a substitute.

Exactly, thats my problem especially after i stopped smoking.

No carbs works really well for me and makes me loose weight.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

Absolutely. It's one thing for fast food service to do this, quite another for a real restaurant - which is presumably making their own burgers from ground beef, maybe butchering sides of beef, etc. - to be advertising retail-grade consumer products.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…

Do you also object to the entire concept of ordering a Budweiser™ beer at a restaurant or bar? I mean... You can drink that at home for a quarter of the price.

Somehow I don't feel the urge to tell someone enjoying a Budweiser™ beer at a bar that their drink "belongs" for sale only at a grocery/convenience store for at-home consumption only.

I buy sandwiches from a place that advertises they use Boar's Head meat. Shrug

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the problem with carbohydrates? If it is the refined grain part in pasta and bread, then there are already solutions: whole wheat products. Who do you thing would go for the beyond wheat products?

People who know that it is a myth that whole grains are healthy?

What is "healthy"? Whole grains provide me with carbs, carbs provide me with sugar, sugar is burnt for energy. Eat the amount you actually need and, unless you've got Celiac, you're gonna be fine.

Some of you people sound like you should just become Breatharians instead of burdening the rest of us with your tiresome dietary restrictions. For those of us that can eat real food without it ruining our lives, you're like so many annoying flies always pushing your strange food fads when the rest of us just want a reliable source of clean meat and bread.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Tangential question for HN vegetarians: Would you eat lab-grown meat if it was affordable?

I've been a vegetarian my entire adult life. As a child I would describe my diet as flexitarian.

I probably wouldn't.

I have personally categorized meat, especially fish, into "eww gross" so I don't think I'd enjoy it and I don't really feel like I have a nutritional need for it.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Id rather see someone become the Beyond Bread/Pasta with zero carbohydrates, that i believe would be a much bigger market.

What is the problem with carbohydrates? If it is the refined grain part in pasta and bread, then there are already solutions: whole wheat products. Who do you thing would go for the beyond wheat products?

Eating carbohydrates spikes your blood sugar and therefore insulin response, which has several problems: one, it makes you hungry again very quickly, and makes your energy levels spike and dip more than if you avoid them. Enough simple carbohydrates cause diabetes.

It is also very easy to eat a large number of calories via carbohydrate. Essentially, carbs make you fat.

I can personally observe in myself that if I eat a chocolate bar in the morning, I will be more hungry in an hour or two than if I had eaten nothing at all.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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I wonder what effects these foods have on the microbiome and health? I read an article this morning about two studies that linked ultraprocessed foods to cardiovascular problems and early death: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/6/11/18652653/di... It seems like these foods fit in the category of "ultraprocessed", unfortunately.

The human body is pretty resilient for most foods. While fortifying "ultra-processed" foods with simple sugars and hydrogenated fats have negative health effects, people have been consuming processed proteins for a while now without that much negativity. Problems arise when these faux meats are themselves over-fortified with simple sugars and trans fats, in order to mimic real meat. Then you're losing health benefits…

This is the Soylent hypothesis. "Processed food" as such is not the problem—it's processed food used as a delivery vehicle for as many addictive sugars, fats, and simple carbs as possible. I would guess that the bad kind of processed food is much more common because it's both easier to make and more profitable (flour is cheap; oil is cheap; protein is expensive).

The same hypothesis (that we can reclaim the idea of processed food for nutritionally complete foods) is also on display in a product like Vite Ramen which explicitly patterns itself after a nutritionally dubious staple food (i.e., instant ramen). I would expect to see more startups in this space in the next few years.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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https://ourworldindata.org/meat-and-seafood-production-consu... Seafood consumption is far higher than meat-- good luck to these folks, it could be highly profitable. Update: Worldwide meat consumption (first graph): 317,000,000 tonnes. Worldwide seafood consumption (later down): 154,850 kilotonnes, or 154,850,000 tonnes. Seafood is roughly half of meat. That's still a large market.

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