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The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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As someone who enjoys meat, I'm excited to be able to finally get options that don't involve killing something to get there.

Plants are living things. If you want to eat without killing then you'd need ab initio synthesized nutrients or subsist on detritus.

If I were the parent I would've phrased that differently. But, as long as we're being pedantic, eating from plants is possible without killing the organism.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-bought dinners, and as bonus points, they’re the vegetarian equivalent of over processed mystery meat. Can’t wait for this hype to level off or for the trend to go the way of shilling Soylent.

Sorry to be a downer, but anything remotely touching alt-food startups on HN is hyped with positive sentiment to the point where any criticism gets discouraged.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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I can't wait to open a can of the Beyond Meat of the Chicken of the Sea

That would be fantastic- no mercury or by-catch to worry about.

Nope - they're creating beyond dolphin meat and adding to the cans to mimic the real thing.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who enjoys meat, I'm excited to be able to finally get options that don't involve killing something to get there.

Plants are living things. If you want to eat without killing then you'd need ab initio synthesized nutrients or subsist on detritus.

Sorry, that doesn't involve killing something with a face.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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Why zero carbohydrates?

Carbohydrates get quickly stored as fat if not used as energy. Carbs and sugar are the culprit behind the obesity epidemic, not meat.

As I understand it, assuming we are talking about carbs, fats and proteins, as in their whole-food forms, not as in say a cookie, no, it's easier/quicker for your body to store say fat as fat than carbs as fat, which it will have to transform into fat first. Carbs are also loaded with water and fibers which makes digestion even slower to make this effect even better.

> Carbs and sugar are the culprit behind the obesity epidemic, not meat

Processed food as well as particularly overeating of delicacies like meat, cheese, eggs, fish, and oil and sugar prepared plant-foods, is the mayor culprit, I believe.

Nobody got fat from eating plain potatoes, beans and apples. It's also very hard to overeat on those kinds of foods because of the high water and fiber content. People get fat by eating too much dairy, meat, eggs, and plants prepared in oils, or other highly processed plant-foods, which are easy to overeat on.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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https://ourworldindata.org/meat-and-seafood-production-consu... Seafood consumption is far higher than meat-- good luck to these folks, it could be highly profitable. Update: Worldwide meat consumption (first graph): 317,000,000 tonnes. Worldwide seafood consumption (later down): 154,850 kilotonnes, or 154,850,000 tonnes. Seafood is roughly half of meat. That's still a large market.

That does not seem right. According to https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/about-the-industry/st... beef/pork/chicken consumption is much higher than fish.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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https://ourworldindata.org/meat-and-seafood-production-consu... Seafood consumption is far higher than meat-- good luck to these folks, it could be highly profitable. Update: Worldwide meat consumption (first graph): 317,000,000 tonnes. Worldwide seafood consumption (later down): 154,850 kilotonnes, or 154,850,000 tonnes. Seafood is roughly half of meat. That's still a large market.

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Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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People who know that it is a myth that whole grains are healthy?

Any sources to back that up?

Start with unhealthy high-carb refined grains and add anti-nutrients like lectin and phytates, plus fiber that you would probably be better off getting from whole fruits and vegetables and you don't end up with something healthy.

Pretty much any of the myriad resources on paleo / low-carb / grain-free diets will cover most of the reasons and point to research backing up why whole grains are not healthy. Nutrition science is a weirdly controversial topic however so for every study that points in one direction you'll find someone passionately committed to a different theory who will dig up conflicting evidence.

Having read a lot on the subject over the years (and through personal experience) I'm persuaded by the evidence in favour of a low-carb, largely grain-free, high fat paleo style diet but I've largely given up trying to convince anyone who feels differently on the Internet as for whatever reason nutrition debates are as heated and futile as political ones.

Re: The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish

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https://ourworldindata.org/meat-and-seafood-production-consu... Seafood consumption is far higher than meat-- good luck to these folks, it could be highly profitable. Update: Worldwide meat consumption (first graph): 317,000,000 tonnes. Worldwide seafood consumption (later down): 154,850 kilotonnes, or 154,850,000 tonnes. Seafood is roughly half of meat. That's still a large market.

That does not seem right. According to https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/about-the-industry/st... beef/pork/chicken consumption is much higher than fish.

Your source is based on USDA data, which I assume is per capita US consumption. Meat and seafood consumption are quite different in other parts of the world.
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