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Post by Crinus »

bitL wrote: post #244
Crinus wrote: post #239

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The point is that he wants to use a program that isn't available on the OS you are suggesting.

Yes, so? If she is not happy with Apple hardware, switching a platform and learning another workflow is a way to solve it. It's not like there aren't other pro options nor that Final Cut Pro is the best pro tool in its category. I do it all the time; I can't do something in Ableton Live? I do it in FL Studio. I can't do something in After Effects or am fed up with Adobe's business practices? I do it in Vegas Pro or D…

The thing is most people aren't using software because of the OS, they are using an OS because of the software it has. The requirement isn't "i want to run macOS" because macOS by itself doesn't really do much, it is just a platform - something for other things to stand on.

Most people aren't asking "does $OS run an image editor?" they are asking "does Photoshop run on $OS?". Replace Photoshop with any widely known or niche application (as both are reasons to select an OS).

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by empath75 »

OBLIQUE_PILLAR wrote: post #9
marricks wrote: post #7

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It doesn’t get me HN points to say, but I’m a developer who loves my MBP.

are you a fan of the butterfly keyboard ?

Amusingly, I spilt a coke in mine a few months ago and other than 1 or 2 keys sticking every once in a while, it’s still working fine.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by visionscaper »

The 2019 Mac Pro is what you get when you let "Pro's", the users of the intended product, influence the vision of the product. Something I don't think has Apple has done ever, and rightly so. Users aren't product designers, they should not be involved in the vision of the product; they must be involved in getting the details right for them.

I would have liked to see a much more innovative product where not only the internals were replaceable and extendable, but that also allowed users to string multiple Mac Pro's together, making it's compute and memory almost infinitely expandable. Maybe even in some sort of lattice network form.

In this way a single Mac Pro could be cheaper and appeal to a broader range of Pro users (e.g. 4000 USD with 2 high-end GPUs). If you'd really wanted computational power, like the hollywood studios need to have, you could string three or four Mac Pro's together. If you are a heavy machine learning Pro, maybe you would put 16 Mac Pro's in a lattice setup, who knows.

I would have expected that the Mac Pro would have some sort of high-bandwidth interface, almost directly exposing the PCI bus, making it possible for software to see all resources (GPUs, CPUs, memory) of all connected Macs as a single machine. Apple, with their software and hardware design capabilities could have pulled that off.

[edit] PS: The Mac mini is not a good replacement for the suggestion I made to string multiple Mac Pro's together, because it lacks to possibility to install one or more powerful GPUs.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by dusty_mc_dusty »

psnosignaluk wrote: post #204
kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

As I sit here looking at the stupid TouchBar, the hunk of aftermarket plastic that contains an HDMI port, Thunderbolt port and USB ports hanging off the side of my MacBook Pro so that I can connect my peripherals, the TouchPad I never use and the keyboard I hate, I can't help but wonder if I'm just an idiot for buying Mac after Mac after Mac. I've run Apple products since 2007 and this is the feeling I'm left with. W…

Been there and back again

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Post by kyboren »

bitL wrote: post #172
jasonkester wrote: post #147

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The worrying part is that in order to keep using the good MacBooks from the past, you need to keep them on the OS version that they shipped with. I have a 2012 MacBook Air that was crazy fast, weighed four grams, and even ran windows 7. Sure, the drive was small, but it was perfect. But some time in 2015 or so I made the terrible strategic blunder of upgrading to the latest OS version. Performance immediately dropped…

Upgrade your drive with a dedicated mSATA adaptor (you can still get Samsung 1TB mSATA drives). That could boost your performance.

Actually, you can still get 2TB Samsung mSATA drives. The Samsung T5 and T3 external drives are just enclosures around mSATA parts.

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Post by protomyth »

auggierose wrote: post #220
imagetic wrote: post #117

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I don't work in Hollywood, but I work heavily in production engineering for television productions that work on A LOT of 8K RAW video and multicam where time is critical, we have days to edit where hollywood has months and multicam is pretty damn taxing vs how a lot of movies operate. Our budgets are a fraction of a hollywood production though. The base model Mac Pro isn't going to be doing much at all. The higher en…

Get a Mac-Mini, 8-core with 64GB Ram, and an eGPU. You will have no problem hitting that $3500 target, make it $4000 for a fantastic eGPU. Also, why are you refusing to look at the iMac Pro? Best machine I ever had.

The place I work decided that the iMac Pro was a no buy (much like a couple of models of Mac mini) because so little of it can be serviced locally and the RAM is not upgradable.

We have actually started buying Intel NUCs for our student labs instead of Macs. Adobe and Office work on both.

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Post by macintux »

_ph_ wrote: post #194
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #90

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> they dropped the ball by not having two displays, though As you said, they’re going for a specific market with this product. They can always release a general-market display down the road. Focusing on a specific set of power users first is how Apple built its renowned culture, and it’s nice to see it returning to those roots.

I can accept that the new Mac Pro has been designed for a very special audience in mind. But if that is so, can we also conclude that Apple hasn't shown any signs of listening to typical developers or photographers? I would be very happy, if they prove me false with yet unreleased machines, but until they do, the Mac Pro doesn't close the matter.

iMac Pro seems like a compelling computer for photographers.

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Post by thevagrant »

cs02rm0 wrote: post #206
fastball wrote: post #13

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I'm giving up my spec'd out Macbook Pro 2015 over my cold, dead body.

My wife needed a MBP so I've bought a 2019 to replace my 2013 13" model. The i7 2.8GHz dual core is now an i5 2.4GHz quad core. The RAM is still 16GB. To keep the price roughly the same the 2019 is a fixed 512GB instead of an upgradeable 1TB. And of course, no escape or function keys but touch bar. And no SD card slot. And a keyboard replacement programme - I've replaced a few keys myself on the 2013 that wore out, I…

My experience with a 2017 MBP has been good. If I were you, I'd give the 2019 model a try.

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Post by bitL »

Crinus wrote: post #251
bitL wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, so? If she is not happy with Apple hardware, switching a platform and learning another workflow is a way to solve it. It's not like there aren't other pro options nor that Final Cut Pro is the best pro tool in its category. I do it all the time; I can't do something in Ableton Live? I do it in FL Studio. I can't do something in After Effects or am fed up with Adobe's business practices? I do it in Vegas Pro or D…

The thing is most people aren't using software because of the OS, they are using an OS because of the software it has. The requirement isn't "i want to run macOS" because macOS by itself doesn't really do much, it is just a platform - something for other things to stand on. Most people aren't asking "does $OS run an image editor?" they are asking "does Photoshop run on $OS?". Replace Photoshop with any widely known o…

I get it; if you are pro you usually have to learn whatever software gets you where you want to go; if you are just a casual user, you can afford the luxury of falling in love with a certain platform and getting accustomed to certain software there. For those users if something on their platform changes to their dislike and the company is not willing to appease them, then well, tough luck I guess...

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by ianai »

gshdg wrote: post #232
ianai wrote: post #38

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The oled touchpad is ridiculous. I never use it “as intended” and it wrecks my function key muscle memory. My laptop is actually expanding because of the battery. I’d like at least a dock that does decent, active cooling.

Get that battery replaced stat. If it’s expanding, it’s a fire risk.

The replacement is ordered.
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