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Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by scarface74 » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:44 AM UTC

kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

As far as a desktop Mac, a suitably configured iMac is more than powerful enough for development. A $2100 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 3Ghz (turbo boost to 4Ghz), 256GB SSD, 16GB of RAM. The RAM is user upgradable and an external SSD drive would be as fast as any normal internal SSD drive.

As far as a laptop? I'm not spending my own money on a development class laptop. I hate developing with just a laptop. I have a dual external monitor setup at home and at work. My next personal computer will definitely be a desktop. You still get more power and more thermal headroom on desktops than more expensive laptops.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by stephenr » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:46 AM UTC

marricks wrote: post #7

kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

It doesn’t get me HN points to say, but I’m a developer who loves my MBP.

I’m pretty happy with mine too, but mine isn’t used daily, just when the Mini has an issue or I go out of the (home) office and need to work.

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Post by fastball » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:47 AM UTC

colmvp wrote: post #10

Back in 2012, I bought the original rMBP. It fit everything I needed: it was thinner than my previous laptop as it had no optical drive, it was lightweight, it had a gorgeous screen, good enough keyboard, and seemed like a reasonable price for a higher end laptop work computer. I've used it everyday since 2012, and aside from the battery which I eventually replaced, it's been functioning without a hitch. From the 90s…

I'm giving up my spec'd out Macbook Pro 2015 over my cold, dead body.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by scarface74 » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:48 AM UTC

udev wrote: post #2

Apple is listening to the shareholders.

I doubt that the shareholders care about the new Mac Pro. It won't move the needle as far as revenue and profit.

I also doubt that they care about improvements to SiriKit, the Audio APIs, and SwiftUI....

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Post by antidaily » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

The iMac 5k and Pros dont get enough love. They look great, are blazingly fast, and the display is ridiculously good. But i suppose the Pro is post-2017.

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Post by L_Rahman » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

Apple's desktop options are actually quite strong right now.

If you just want a really powerful desktop computer for dev work - get a souped up Mac Mini If you want it with a nice screen - get an iMac Pro If you're a video professional - get a Mac Pro

The Macbook Pro keyboard situation is a garbage fire, though I will say that I'm quite happy with my 2016 keyboard after it got replaced for free through the program.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by TurbineSeaplane » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

Sure - working great for somebody like Marco who’s already loaded.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by fastball » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:53 AM UTC

marricks wrote: post #7

kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

It doesn’t get me HN points to say, but I’m a developer who loves my MBP.

You love it more than the 2015 MBP?

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Post by fastball » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:53 AM UTC

secstate wrote: post #6

I think I might just be done with Apple. That culture of saying nothing and the surprising customers with things is like betting in Vegas. And unfortunately for Apple, the house always wins. They can repair the damage of the Mac Pro debacle with a new Mac Pro, but they haven't owned the train wreck of a keyboard on the Macbook Pro. Sure, they might be ready to hit it big on a double down on black, but in the meantime…

What about the trackpad though?

I just can't get over how inferior everyone else's trackpads are.

Re: Apple Is Listening

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Post by kjhughes » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 2:58 AM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #11

kjhughes wrote: post #4

I'll believe it when they produce a MacBook Pro that developers love again or a Mac Pro that (not yet independently wealthy) developers can afford again.

As far as a desktop Mac, a suitably configured iMac is more than powerful enough for development. A $2100 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 3Ghz (turbo boost to 4Ghz), 256GB SSD, 16GB of RAM. The RAM is user upgradable and an external SSD drive would be as fast as any normal internal SSD drive. As far as a laptop? I'm not spending my own money on a development class laptop. I hate developing with just a laptop. I have a dual exter…

A "$2100 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 3Ghz" is not a substantial improvement over my late 2013 MacBook Pro (2.6 GHz, 4 core i7), which can both travel to client sites and directly drive 2 x 3840 x 2160 pixels on my desktop displays. No new MBP's have been worth buying. The new Mac Pro is nice but crazy expensive in a configuration I'd expected to be buying in 2019.