Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

Post by pgeorgi » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 6:29 PM UTC

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Why wouldn't the other vendors band together and make a single, non-Google chromium extensions repository? If anyone from Microsoft is reading, this would be an excellent opportunity to give Edge a leg up on Chrome.

I suppose an extension is easier but as browsers can be told to go through proxies, an extension isn't necessary for adblocking. A 2nd process on the machine, a change to the browser (set localhost and a port) and you're done. Someone did something similar and called it Dan's Guardian IIRC, but that's all it was. That's how I run mine, a local (and very ancient) version of squid blocks everything. It won't be as flex…

Post by neilv » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 6:43 PM UTC

rndgermandude wrote: post #42

The problem at this point isn't whether chrome will disable it... It can be added back, probably fairly easily as google intents to keep it around for "enterprise" anyway, so it's probably just gonna end up changing/removing one if-statement. If not, then the code already exists and has to be merged back in. The problem is distribution of the actual extensions, as Vivaldi kinda pointed out, as the other browsers most…

Post by gorhill » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 7:08 PM UTC

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My gut feeling is that Google won't pull this stunt with chrome, this is some kind of scare mongering or a PR tactic, I dunno. It doesn't make a logical sense because if they are banning the ad-blockers, it means they accept that chrome is largely used by power users who can install these blockers (otherwise, what's the need?). But they should realize that a power user who installs an addon can just as easily move to…

Maybe think about it in a different way. Right now, there is a kill-switch within googles primary product that could essentially destroy their business model. This is not about google wanting to harm the current power users. It is probably the idea that someone could come along and destroy their business. If such an extensions goes mainstream that could seriously harm them. They may also want to get rid of paying Adb…

Post by user17843 » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 7:28 PM UTC

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Maybe think about it in a different way. Right now, there is a kill-switch within googles primary product that could essentially destroy their business model. This is not about google wanting to harm the current power users. It is probably the idea that someone could come along and destroy their business. If such an extensions goes mainstream that could seriously harm them. They may also want to get rid of paying Adb…

> getting rid of ABP may be the primary reason for this move This makes no sense to me. ABP is already publishing a version using a declarativeNetRequest-like API, it's in the Mac App Store[1], so clearly it's not going to "get rid of ABP". Google benefits from ABP and AdBlock[2] being the most used content blockers, as they do not block Google ads by default, and do not block trackers/data miners out of the box. If…

Post by gorhill » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 7:38 PM UTC

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gorhill wrote: post #115

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> getting rid of ABP may be the primary reason for this move This makes no sense to me. ABP is already publishing a version using a declarativeNetRequest-like API, it's in the Mac App Store[1], so clearly it's not going to "get rid of ABP". Google benefits from ABP and AdBlock[2] being the most used content blockers, as they do not block Google ads by default, and do not block trackers/data miners out of the box. If…

You are probably right, although a low number of rules will also affect them as their acceptable ads program is based on the fact that they block everything else. I still wonder if they can continue to offer that program with 30,000 rules only. My idea that they target ABP came from their arbitrary 30,000 rules limit. As I have written elsewhere I consider ABP and AdBlock as "infiltrated" by Google, so they definitel…