When Chrome did this they quickly highlighted how much control they have over what people view. Privacy focused open browsers will gain marketshare because of it.
Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
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Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#102I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?
I switched to Brave.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is probably still a legacy mix of XUL, cpp and migrating to rust. I'm pretty sure chrome is easier to adapt.
XUL was replaced quite some time ago.
>XBL stats update :
>* 28 bindings (9.33% of original bindings)
>* 10517 lines of code (21.02% of original LOCs)
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
WebKit/Blink is a mixed LGPL/BSD licensed project, with KHTML and other KDE developed parts being LGPL. Google likely can't keep most of their patches stripping support secret.
Well, an enterprise would have to ask for the source code to Chrome, wouldn't they?
Well,they never asked for Microsoft Explorer/Edge code.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#105Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#106The problem at this point isn't whether chrome will disable it... It can be added back, probably fairly easily as google intents to keep it around for "enterprise" anyway, so it's probably just gonna end up changing/removing one if-statement. If not, then the code already exists and has to be merged back in. The problem is distribution of the actual extensions, as Vivaldi kinda pointed out, as the other browsers most…
Given that Firefox has now also moved to using WebExtensions, the Chromium forks could just rely on http://addons.mozilla.org as their “store.”
Firefox add-ons have a different namespace and some additional APIs that Blink does not support. See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web... and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Current Opera doesn't even allow to customize mouse gestures. The browser that once prided itself in its feature richness...
I mean... at least it has mouse gestures. Hard to knock it for being not feature-rich enough when it has a feature no other browser has by default (except Vivaldi, which has Opera lineage).
Sure, however:
a) This built-in feature is way below the standards trivially achievable via extensions in Firefox, Chrome etc.
b) It's a downgrade in relation to what Opera itself used to offer in the past (and then, if I recall, got so stripped of functionalities it didn't even support bookmarks at some point).
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#108The problem at this point isn't whether chrome will disable it... It can be added back, probably fairly easily as google intents to keep it around for "enterprise" anyway, so it's probably just gonna end up changing/removing one if-statement. If not, then the code already exists and has to be merged back in. The problem is distribution of the actual extensions, as Vivaldi kinda pointed out, as the other browsers most…
Why wouldn't the other vendors band together and make a single, non-Google chromium extensions repository? If anyone from Microsoft is reading, this would be an excellent opportunity to give Edge a leg up on Chrome.
As an example - app stores for android. Each manufacturer makes it's own and for years they are unable to cooperate.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#109The main question is how long they will do it. Now it's easy, but google can move the locker deeply inside. If anti-ad-blocker changes will needs 1-2mb patches every release, they will just give up fast.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?
> On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already? Not sure why power users ever left Firefox as their default browser when surveillance tech came along. I sure didn't. Firefox was always the more competent and customizable browser. Happy to see users returning. Among other things, the current "Welcome Chromium/Chrome users!" megathread in the Firefox subreddit[1] seems to indicate there's something going…
> Not sure why power users ever left Firefox as their default browser when surveillance tech came along.
On any Firefox thread on HN, search for “macOS” and you’ll find several complaints. In my case, I could live with most of Firefox’s problems, but not the lack of AppleScript support.