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Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Except mobile browsers, arguably the most critical place where you need blocking to get any kind of reasonably decent experience (load times, viewable area, battery life, etc.). Extensions like uBlock target people who don't want to bother with editing hosts files and keeping them updated.

Mobile chrome did not support ad blocking extensions last time I checked

Mobile Firefox does. How is this not better known?

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Except mobile browsers, arguably the most critical place where you need blocking to get any kind of reasonably decent experience (load times, viewable area, battery life, etc.). Extensions like uBlock target people who don't want to bother with editing hosts files and keeping them updated.

Mobile chrome did not support ad blocking extensions last time I checked

A chromium fork named Kiwi supports extensions on Android! Thanks to this I can play youtube music in the background and have the fastest possible browser on Android. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwibrowse...

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I tried opera a while back, and while it's fast and looks good, it has a new tab page with "recommended" sites that you can't turn off - I tried, but it's protected by DRM (opera will refuse to start if the file doesn't have a valid digital signature).

So if I'm going to switch browsers because of privacy/advertising concerns, it's not going to be Opera.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Mobile chrome did not support ad blocking extensions last time I checked

A chromium fork named Kiwi supports extensions on Android! Thanks to this I can play youtube music in the background and have the fastest possible browser on Android. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwibrowse...

> The browser is not fully open source like open in open source. It is a common myth and misconception about Kiwi Browser.

https://github.com/kiwibrowser/android/issues/30

There's NewPipe at F-Droid for youtube music in the background and so much more.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I feel like things would be easier if Firefox could be embeded in another browser just like chromium can. Let Google cripple their browser for themselves, and Mozilla provide the good and strong de facto browser engine.

I haven't seen this talked about here but... last I checked Mozilla was in majority funded by Google royalties. What's their plan of aligning their income with essentially directly attacking their funding source?

They’re not attacking anything - I don’t think ad blockers block search ads, which are embedded into search results - and Firefox royalties have always been for search.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Mobile chrome did not support ad blocking extensions last time I checked

Mobile Firefox does. How is this not better known?

The best mobile Firefox feature never marketed by Mozilla at all.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Except mobile browsers, arguably the most critical place where you need blocking to get any kind of reasonably decent experience (load times, viewable area, battery life, etc.). Extensions like uBlock target people who don't want to bother with editing hosts files and keeping them updated.

I use such a host file on my android. There's even apps to manage them. Needs a rooted device though. That has the added benefit of removing ads in all apps, because when they can't be loaded, generally not even the empty widget shows.

You can use Blokada who block with DNS system without rooting.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?

> On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already? Not sure why power users ever left Firefox as their default browser when surveillance tech came along. I sure didn't. Firefox was always the more competent and customizable browser. Happy to see users returning. Among other things, the current "Welcome Chromium/Chrome users!" megathread in the Firefox subreddit[1] seems to indicate there's something going…

I switched because CPU usage on Mac OS was so much higher under Firefox than Chrome. I tried so many different things, following suggestions in Bugzilla, HN comments and just about every site I could find through DDG and Google. Nothing worked, and usually when I bring it up people dismiss the complaint with "it's better than it used to be", "it's not that bad" or "it's just you". But I'm not the only person complaining (or being dismissed outright).

To be clear, it's not pegging any core at 100% or anything so extreme. But it causes my laptop to heat up and my fans to kick in very frequently - something that almost never happens with Chromium/Webkit/Blink based browsers. If I primarily used a desktop, I wouldn't even have noticed, but a warm lap and constant fan noise makes it unusable for me.

Safari was out because I needed to run multiple browser profiles concurrently (something Firefox and Chrome support readily).

I've recently switched from Mac OS to Windows but my experience (as recently as a month ago) with Firefox leaves me feeling that it's the less mature implementation with an over zealous fan base ("it's not us, it's you!").

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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Firefox is probably still a legacy mix of XUL, cpp and migrating to rust. I'm pretty sure chrome is easier to adapt.

XUL was replaced quite some time ago.

There is still some XUL components/code floating around, it's being replaced and reduced with each release.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I haven't seen this talked about here but... last I checked Mozilla was in majority funded by Google royalties. What's their plan of aligning their income with essentially directly attacking their funding source?

They’re not attacking anything - I don’t think ad blockers block search ads, which are embedded into search results - and Firefox royalties have always been for search.

> I don’t think ad blockers block search ads

Of course they do.

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