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That sounds great! Just be careful not too become too dependent on someone else.
Becoming dependent is part of the deal. It keeps people together through the difficult times.
The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
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Re: The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
#362There are other ways of solving the loneliness problem than economically castrating more than half the population in an attempt to return to an idealized past that never actually was. The world is different now than it was in the 1950s, and we're going to have to find different ways to get our necessary face-time, and luckily we have more tools to better take responsibility for our social health than we did even 10 y…
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#363Actually one of the things my wife and I often discuss is how with our current society even what we consider our "nuclear family" is at most just a part time family. For most of humanity a family group stayed together for the majority of each day. Children played with siblings, cousins and were usually within earshot of one of their parents or relatives. Certainly they would have found their way back when hungry. As…
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A lot of people have kids _for themselves_. There are a lot of other endeavours one can pursue that will bring happiness. I think where we fail as a society, is in teaching ourselves how to find those pursuits, surround ourselves with friends, and avoid loneliness. > The mantra is to get rich and retire at 40 Hrm, I question the circle of people you're surrounded by. Many millennials are struggling to afford the basi…
And whose tax money will be looking after you in your old age, when you have no family of your own to take care of you? The children of those ‘unethical’ people you tediously condescend so proudly up on your high horse.
This is a really bad argument. Especially in countries that have a lot more support for parents than the US.
Re: The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
#365The article is long and I skimmed a bit. It appears to be one of these pieces that just covers so many topics and issues, I'm not sure which ones correlate to loneliness and which ones don't. I'll tell you one thing, and this is a personal belief: the modern way of making a living and the modern relationship to my family is far preferable to me than "the old way." For most of human history we've had to stick with our…
Lots of choices are toxic and most people underutilise free will. Society will have to pay the cost in terms of poor mental health and related issues. Some people thrives alone while someone else in groups. Both should co-exist for functional society.
What we have now that we didn't use to have is an actual freedom to choose our path - at least, relative to what we had in the past pre-industrialization.
It is indeed very easy to make a lot of choices that result in loneliness or unhappiness. But at least more of us have those choices.
Re: The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
#366Move to another city. Leave your small-town life. Chase your dream. Live alone. Pay more per capita to landlords. Pay more per capita for basic services, for staple foods. Pay businesses to do the household chores that you can't handle alone when you're also working a full-time job, and don't have a family to spread them out among. Buy more stuff to fill that emotional hole. Consume. Live in an apartment. Never see y…
Then my parents get older and older and I think is this it, will I just work here until they pass away and also my good friends in other cities or towns aren't as good friends anymore because I can't feasibly visit them all every few months.
So I end up with like 300k, mid 30's, and not many close connections.
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#368I’ve been feeling a pretty intense sort of depression and loneliness for the last month or so. The feelings of “you’re a white male and you work in tech and you are wealthy you are a SATAN” is just becoming too much :(. I volunteer a tremendous amount in education, where I’m the only male I generally even see in my field, and I constantly have to listen to my coworkers gleefully talk about how excited they are at how…
Just a piece of advice: try to take a step back and listen more carefully to the complaints you're hearing. When people talk about dismantling the patriarchy, or about racial privilege, they are not actually talking about any one particular person. You are fully able to be white, male, privileged, and still be an ally to those who do not benefit as much from the power structures in our society. Instead of feeling per…
People are very similar. It is nice to find a common enemy and it is nice to generalize. So on 4chan people analyze and find that black people are the problem and generalize about black people and in certain groups people find that white men are the problem and tend to generalize about white men.
Re: The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
#369I find the HN comments on an article like this fascinating. So many people that admit to not having kids who think they are experts on what it means or is like to have kids.
Re: The decline of the family has unleashed an epidemic of loneliness
#370What's wrong with being alone? The only problem I see is for people who can't handle a certain burden (X) _being_ alone. Perhaps a right balance can be struck, but often times it is better to be alone (X) than to be around people you have to make a certain amount of effort (Y) to be with.