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Post by lkb2k »

lawfulcactus wrote: post #118
ksec wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Luckily I realized quickly that kids play on the devices of parents and so the ads they might see are at times super inappropriate! That was exactly what happen to my kids yesterday. I don't mind ads, but when they are inappropriate for the 5 years old I get really pissed off. And I wish Apple Arcade could come sooner so they don't get distracted with Ads. It is the same reason I don't really allow them to watch You…

Well, there's Youtube Kids: https://www.youtube.com/kids/ And on iOS, you can use Guided Access to keep them in the app. Not sure about Android.

I let my kids try out YouTube kids and I thought all the content was total garbage. Mostly toy unboxing videos, video game walkthroughs, and creepy knockoffs of cartoons they liked. Deleted it very quickly. We stick to DVDs and Netflix now.

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Post by M_J_P »

ksec wrote: post #86
kerng wrote: post #26

I totally agree with this! I built a game and naively added ads to it as it seemed a good way to monetize. The game started to be really liked, and had 300k+ downloads overall. Many kids started playing it also. Luckily I realized quickly that kids play on the devices of parents and so the ads they might see are at times super inappropriate! Then I removed all ads, I'd rather make less money but have people play and…

>Luckily I realized quickly that kids play on the devices of parents and so the ads they might see are at times super inappropriate! That was exactly what happen to my kids yesterday. I don't mind ads, but when they are inappropriate for the 5 years old I get really pissed off. And I wish Apple Arcade could come sooner so they don't get distracted with Ads. It is the same reason I don't really allow them to watch You…

Check out GoNoodle

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Post by mrep »

punnerud wrote: post #141
Zopieux wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most sane countries forbid medicine/drug ads by law.

Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming, all ads to children, all gun related, not allowed to count points in games before children are 13, credit card loans, all health related than can’t show scientific benefit..

> Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming

Gaming, as in like video games and board games are banned? Seriously?

Re: “Apps intended for kids may not include third-party advertising or analytics”

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Post by yalok »

Can someone please clarify the “analytics” part? All kinds of analytics services, or services that use your app analytics for their own purposes, or use it for the sake of ads targeting/retargeting, or have PII risks?

I’m not sure I see the harm to kids if an app uses some ads-free analytics provider like Amplitude just for its own 1st party needs... or am I missing something?

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Post by HyperTalk2 »

joshstrange wrote: post #2

Here is the whole section > 1.3 Kids Category > The Kids Category is a great way for people to easily find apps that are designed for children. If you want to participate in the Kids Category, you should focus on creating a great experience specifically for younger users. These apps must not include links out of the app, purchasing opportunities, or other distractions to kids unless reserved for a designated area beh…

These apps will be nearly impossible to monetize. No ads, but also basically no in-app purchases either. I doubt many children will see a parental gate and actually do what it asks. They'll just treat it like a dead-end and close the app to find something else to play with. This category will be entirely populated by totally free apps that are created solely for branding purposes or funded by NGOs to push an agenda, with a very small number of apps created by uncompromised people who sincerely want to make the world a better place for children.

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Post by ricardobeat »

Yes! This is amazing. The thing I most loathe is the advertising that shows up when my kid is using one of the few apps we allow (and PAID for), in the limited allotted time with the iPad.

Total feeling of powerlessness, especially when the content is not exactly child-friendly: last one she told me about was an ad for a game with somebody tied up, having his head cut-off, inside Cut The Rope.

Re: “Apps intended for kids may not include third-party advertising or analytics”

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Post by madrox »

I worked for a very large company that's considered a leader in apps and games for kids. I don't think this is as good as it seems first glance.

COPPA compliance isn't new. There are some third party analytics tools that are COPPA compliant, and any responsible company is already taking COPPA seriously. What's new here is saying you can't farm responsibility for your data collection to COPPA-compliant third party SDKs. My guess is because there have been too many watchdogs raising concerns, and it's much easier to review apps for compliance if you blanket ban third party SDKs with this purpose.

That said, this isn't going to change the business need. You'll just seem more first party code hitting a first party wrapper to a third party service. It will also encourage more small companies to try rolling their own, which invites bad security practices and greater risk what the data that is collected. I'm not sure that really helps kids or parents overall.

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Post by scarface74 »

madrox wrote: post #167

I worked for a very large company that's considered a leader in apps and games for kids. I don't think this is as good as it seems first glance. COPPA compliance isn't new. There are some third party analytics tools that are COPPA compliant, and any responsible company is already taking COPPA seriously. What's new here is saying you can't farm responsibility for your data collection to COPPA-compliant third party SDK…

Like I said above, what’s wrong with the simple idea of getting people to pay for apps and avoid any ads?

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Post by scarface74 »

yalok wrote: post #164

Can someone please clarify the “analytics” part? All kinds of analytics services, or services that use your app analytics for their own purposes, or use it for the sake of ads targeting/retargeting, or have PII risks? I’m not sure I see the harm to kids if an app uses some ads-free analytics provider like Amplitude just for its own 1st party needs... or am I missing something?

Do you have the source code to Amplitude? If not, you don’t know what the binary blob you’re including in your code does.

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Post by sk0g »

mrep wrote: post #163
punnerud wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming, all ads to children, all gun related, not allowed to count points in games before children are 13, credit card loans, all health related than can’t show scientific benefit..

> Norway also ban: Alcohol, smoke, gaming Gaming, as in like video games and board games are banned? Seriously?

I am fairly certain they mean gaming as in gambling. Would be a bit weird to ban video game ads, surely?
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