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YouTube to Remove Thousands of Videos Pushing Extreme Views

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Germany does fine not allowing for nazi ideology to be espoused. Commoditizing the spread of bad ideas is not, in fact, a public good.

The U.S. isn't Germany. The U.S. has a first amendment.

Which deals specifically with preventing the government from censoring your speech. You are not obligated to use YouTube, nor is YouTube obligated to host your speech.

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We're not talking about the removal of extreme political views. We're talking about the censorship of one particular ideology. Where is the corresponding elimination of polarizing videos espousing views from the radical left?

A wholesale expunction from one end of the spectrum is hard not to interpret as politically charged censorship. Let's see how many Antifa and BLM videos get taken down.

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And here we go. As usual the "racist" pretext is being used to censor videos. I have no doubt that there are some terrible awful racist videos in that lot but you have to wonder how many times this is ALSO used as a mean to censor pretty much any video that the youtube execs don't like. Censorship is getting worse Edit: Replacing "Censorship is coming back" with "Censorship is getting worse"

The statement "censorship is coming back" is simply not true, it's been here the entire time. YouTube has been censoring videos since probably the very beginning. They've already had the power to and have already silenced certain political opinions on their platform. This is nothing new, they're simply (maybe) expanding it.

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany does fine not allowing for nazi ideology to be espoused. Commoditizing the spread of bad ideas is not, in fact, a public good.

The U.S. isn't Germany. The U.S. has a first amendment.

Thank goodness for that. If not, YouTube might be forced to publish extremist content that they find to be harmful.

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And here we go. As usual the "racist" pretext is being used to censor videos. I have no doubt that there are some terrible awful racist videos in that lot but you have to wonder how many times this is ALSO used as a mean to censor pretty much any video that the youtube execs don't like. Censorship is getting worse Edit: Replacing "Censorship is coming back" with "Censorship is getting worse"

No censorship. You are still free to create your own YouTube clone and publish your extreme political views there. Maybe call it "GabTube"?

by all means this is censorship. Let's not get confused here.

It is a private company doing the censorship but this is 100% in the definition of censorship.

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And here we go. As usual the "racist" pretext is being used to censor videos. I have no doubt that there are some terrible awful racist videos in that lot but you have to wonder how many times this is ALSO used as a mean to censor pretty much any video that the youtube execs don't like. Censorship is getting worse Edit: Replacing "Censorship is coming back" with "Censorship is getting worse"

By all means offer a better solution for dealing with the problem of algorithms matching viewers with extremist content.

No algorithms matching viewers. It's not ideal, sure, but freedom of opinion is a lot more important than Youtube being easy to use.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual rules is very impartial (btw, [1] should be the actual link): > Today, we're taking another step in our hate speech policy by specifically prohibiting videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status. If they apply this rule to every instance of allegation of…

Hate speech is free speech. We know this both through logical deduction and through multiple different Supreme Court rulings. The "impartial" label just obscures the fundamental problem of it being absurd to consider any speech harmful to anyone, ever, especially within the context of an online content platform that isn't meant to be a publisher with a prerogative to edit said content.

>logical deduction

How can logical deduction flawlessly relate such subjective terms?

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'“Opinions can be deeply offensive, but if they don’t violate our policies, they’ll remain on our site,” YouTube said in a statement about its decision on Mr. Crowder.' I'm sure those policies will shift stealthily until everything except Baby Shark videos is banned. Left, right or center politically? But a little too spicy for your average 8-year-old? Banned. Gotta keep the Coca-Cola ad execs happy. It's a curious h…

We can always go back to liveleak and vimeo. I think all the youtube I watch would be fine for an 8 year old and I think most of the people who use youtube are the same. The most popular platform should be the most innocuous. But there should be alternatives.
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