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This tactic could sorta make sense – if narrowly directed at "princelings" who are children of top officials, rather than top students we'd love to have stay in the US. (I don't have much hope clumsy trade/immigration bureaucracies & grandstanding politicians can be that subtle, though.)
In 2013, the number of Chinese students returning to China after graduating hit 90%. [1] It used to be more like 9 in 10 would remain in the US to work. If foreign graduate students are staying and working in the US, it’s probably a net benefit hosting them in US schools, even though it drives up demand and therefore tuition costs for US citizens. If 8 or 9 out of 10 are returning to China, better to keep the spot fo…
The reason more Chinese students returned was because the number of Chinese going to the USA to study exploded. It is really hard for those liberal arts fuerdai to find a job in the states after they graduate.
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At least to me, your comment reads like you wish Trump would act more like Hitler so you could feel more justified in not liking him. Edit: See reply below. I realize now that this was me misinterpreting the parent's words.
Caring more about human rights abuses is to "act more like Hitler" Sheesh..
I believe based on your comment, the intended statement was "I wish Trump would make a bigger deal out of China's human rights abuses." Which does seem pretty reasonable.
Given the general pattern of comments on the internet where everything about Trump is negative, I read it as "I wish Trump would have some human rights abuses added to his list of things that are wrong with him"
As I said, sounds like that is my mistake. I am guessing others may have read it that way as well.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/25/china-uses-...
A senior U.S. counterintelligence official recently said publicly what many officials and experts have been warning privately for years: China is using its large student population in the United States to spy.
I personally think that welcoming international students and treating them with goodwill is good foreign policy.
I was a grad student when the Tienanmen Square demonstrations happened. Chinese students in the US formed the backbone of a network that maintained communication with their compatriots in China. I personally think that welcoming international students and treating them with goodwill is good foreign policy.
This is probably warranted.
I disagree with you, but am curious about your argument. Wouldn’t this cut off the brain drain that’s contributed to decades of American technological supremacy and economic growth?
Are you trying to credit Chinese students as the sole reason for America's technological supremacy and economic growth? Ha ha good try but no.
Besides, India isn't affected by this and they make up equal share of foreign students in American Universities.
Plus, you know, western European students, African students, Russian, etc, have also contributed over the decades.
China isn't everything.
"In April, three researchers were also let go by the University of Texas’s M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in connection with an investigation into possible foreign attempts to take advantage of its federally funded research." This is the real reason why visas are getting denied. Why would you want to enjoy the fruits of living and working in America but benefit other countries (even if you once belonged there)?
I must admit to some confusion about why federally-funded cancer research results aren’t available to everyone.
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I disagree with you, but am curious about your argument. Wouldn’t this cut off the brain drain that’s contributed to decades of American technological supremacy and economic growth?
No. Are you trying to credit Chinese students as the sole reason for America's technological supremacy and economic growth? Ha ha good try but no. Besides, India isn't affected by this and they make up equal share of foreign students in American Universities. Plus, you know, western European students, African students, Russian, etc, have also contributed over the decades. China isn't everything.
No, but more is more. The carrot is the cream of a billion people tasting American culture and having the opportunity to contribute to it. I’m just trying to see the counterbalancing, and un-mitigatable, cost or risk.
In 2013, the number of Chinese students returning to China after graduating hit 90%. [1] It used to be more like 9 in 10 would remain in the US to work. If foreign graduate students are staying and working in the US, it’s probably a net benefit hosting them in US schools, even though it drives up demand and therefore tuition costs for US citizens. If 8 or 9 out of 10 are returning to China, better to keep the spot fo…
Most students returned to China because they are not allowed to work in the US. The chance of getting a work visa dropped significantly since 2010s. Foreign students aren’t getting American education for free; they pay much higher tuition. They are effectively subsiding the tuition cost of domestic students.
Universities will take a large financial hit, but tuition should also decline in the face of lower demand.