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Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by asdff »

radcon wrote: post #96
Trufa wrote: post #41

I wonder what the "next reddit" is going to look like...

Hopefully we go back to forums, where the format is more conducive to conversation rather than snarky one-liners and memes. This whole nested comment format becomes completely unreadable once you have more than two people involved in a comment thread, and the fact that submissions can't survive more than 36 hours guarantees that no deeper conversations would ever happen even if the comment format could support them.…

There's a happy size for subreddits, ballpark less than 200k subs. Otherwise, like you said, its overwhelming. Any less than 30k subs and the subreddit is pretty desolate though, which might be good for some topics.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by Bekwnn »

odiroot wrote: post #80
kuzehanka wrote: post #38

> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. Ever since starting a project to collect and analyse the reddit firehose, I've had a series of eye opening experiences about just how manufactured the popular reddit content is. Every day, comments and posts with hundreds to thousands of upvotes…

This is really a sad truth about modern Reddit. Seems like /r/news, /r/worldnews and many other hyper-popular subs are carefully crafted propaganda machines. The best way around it to stay subscribed to smaller, more niche subs.

And let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Those specific or niche interests are often done a huge favor by subreddits.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by awfully »

vortico wrote: post #29
ralusek wrote: post #2

> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. I don't like how people treat each other on the platform, and I don't like how it makes me feel when I use it. Don't think this has to do with Reddit so much as the way we interact with each other online, in general.

It certainly has to do with Reddit. It's unnatural for humans to communicate with priority of "most popular". If you walk in a room with strangers, meet two friends at their house, or talk in private with your mother, all of those discussions are "bump order", meaning that your most likely discussion to respond to is the most recent "thread" (or subject) that someone brought up. Online communication should function t…

I feel like karma/likes are one of the worse things ever invented in the history of software. I post on Something Awful, and while we have post counts nobody gives a damn about them. The only thing that is “impressive” is seeing an account with an old registration date, but it’s not a big deal other than light ribbing (“how can you be a member for 10 years and not know the rules?”).

SA is organized into sub forums which are like subreddits I guess, and a lot of the discussion takes place inside what are essentially Reddit like megathreads. In the threads I follow and post in, sometimes sure it gets off topic but when it becomes a problem the mods usually step in and probate the offenders (6 hour posting ban), but normally after a warning. People don’t post low content low effort things like I see in every single Reddit post. I’m talking about things like inside jokes that people quote and run to the ground.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

#104

Post by mrmuagi »

radcon wrote: post #96
Trufa wrote: post #41

I wonder what the "next reddit" is going to look like...

Hopefully we go back to forums, where the format is more conducive to conversation rather than snarky one-liners and memes. This whole nested comment format becomes completely unreadable once you have more than two people involved in a comment thread, and the fact that submissions can't survive more than 36 hours guarantees that no deeper conversations would ever happen even if the comment format could support them.…

What forums do you peruse? The ones I run through are generally okay, but mechanisms of voting, liking, and rewarding post count of users, seem to increase low effort posting.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

#105

Post by ralusek »

dsl wrote: post #21
ralusek wrote: post #2

> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. I don't like how people treat each other on the platform, and I don't like how it makes me feel when I use it. Don't think this has to do with Reddit so much as the way we interact with each other online, in general.

Reddit brings together far more diverse communities than any other site, who then slam head on in to each other in the generic subreddits. You used to have to go actively seek out the toxic parts of the internet (except for the occasional raid of your forum by a rival, but you could usually ride that out). Now because they refuse to ban the like of The_Donald, it is like a Knitting website and Stormfront trying to sh…

You think Reddit's problem is that they should ban The_Donald?

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by rat87 »

ralusek wrote: post #105
dsl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit brings together far more diverse communities than any other site, who then slam head on in to each other in the generic subreddits. You used to have to go actively seek out the toxic parts of the internet (except for the occasional raid of your forum by a rival, but you could usually ride that out). Now because they refuse to ban the like of The_Donald, it is like a Knitting website and Stormfront trying to sh…

You think Reddit's problem is that they should ban The_Donald?

Without question

The sub relentlessly breaks the rules, raids other subs, never engages in good faith, spreads racist propaganda, serves as a breeding ground for white supremacists, is incapable of civil conversation. Like the president they worship they are toxic to community

And instead of banning them the admins engage in silly games like manipulating their comments(one of the admins changed db to change one of their comments).

They've poisoned many subs. For instance it's incredibly rare to see an Immigration story in /r/news without the comments making you feel like you're in the middle of a kkk gathering.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by nsilvestri »

Scrantonicity wrote: post #95
kuzehanka wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are your thoughts about accounts such as u/mvea consistently hitting the front page on a daily basis, often with links that were posted by other accounts earlier but only gained traction when posted by this account? What are your thoughts on accusations that admins are able to adorn comments with gold/silver for free and manipulate comment priority? What are your thoughts on the fact that any discussion about th…

> What are your thoughts about accounts such as u/mvea consistently hitting the front page on a daily basis, often with links that were posted by other accounts earlier but only gained traction when posted by this account? Not the guy you replied to but here's my take on this. Users like gallowboob and mvea have been known to post and repost the same content multiple times. If it doesn't get traction within the first…

It's this; I'm guilty of doing it, and I believe there is a comment from /u/GallowBoob of him admitting it, but I can't find it. Sometimes a post just doesn't take off simply by bad luck, and it's easier to try again rather than to comb for new content.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by dsl »

ralusek wrote: post #105
dsl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit brings together far more diverse communities than any other site, who then slam head on in to each other in the generic subreddits. You used to have to go actively seek out the toxic parts of the internet (except for the occasional raid of your forum by a rival, but you could usually ride that out). Now because they refuse to ban the like of The_Donald, it is like a Knitting website and Stormfront trying to sh…

You think Reddit's problem is that they should ban The_Donald?

I think Reddit's problem is they think they can allow toxic communities to co-exist beside communities filled with normal people, and expect everyone to have a positive experience.

They have half admitted the issue by the new subreddit quarantine process, but members of those communities are still allowed to be toxic in the general subs.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by fastball »

tayo42 wrote: post #68
fastball wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started using Reddit around the same time (actually 9 years ago!) and I feel the same way about it now. Recently, I've gone totally cold-turkey on the platform. Where as previously I had been posting daily for 9 years!

do you post anywhere else? traditional forums seem to have died with reddit getting big or I just can't find them anymore?

Here mostly. Generally just trying to spend less time on the internet than I used to.

The place I post this most is in GitHub issues. ;)

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Post by sprash »

kebman wrote: post #77
sprash wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decentralized and based on blockchain. Something like steem but with lower barrier of entry.

I just don't see it. I've tried Steem and some others experimenting with it, and I'm not really impressed. Could you please give me some pointers as to how it would work? On the other hand, have you tried IPFS?

> Could you please give me some pointers as to how it would work?

What do you mean by work? It already works quiet well. Except for the entry barrier.

> On the other hand, have you tried IPFS?

I have tried it a while ago and it is very unreliable. There seems to be just one server which really keeps files. You have no transparency about who and how many have one particular file.

Magnet links + torrents are essentially the same thing as IPFS but much more robust, transparent, reliable and established.

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