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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by jedikv »

somecallitblues wrote: post #183
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #129

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Thanks for the feedback, I’ll try to tone that thing down a bit. The thing is, some people LOVE the chat widget. Especially for those users who don’t want reveal their real email address but have a quick question. I’ve had at least 3x more chats on there than support emails.

Chat is awesome. Personally I love it. You get to talk to someone in real time. What's not to like about it. I'm not sure why the OP is so revolted by it. Maybe remove the sound but leave the popup and chat.

When you're trying to read the site for yourself, it can be distracting and a bit obnoxious.

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Post by NateEag »

_bxg1 wrote: post #162
anbop wrote: post #92

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And being done by Apple, most services can’t just reject these the way they do with Mailinator addresses, since it would be throwing away a giant chunk of their revenue. Apps with huge consumer demand like Uber or Facebook could get away with it, but not the vast majority of apps.

Right. One of the big things about Apple getting into something, even if it's been done before, is that they carry enough influence to strongarm other companies into respecting their paying customers. It's great.

It strikes me as terrifying, personally, but to each their own.

I have been responsible for creating and maintaining an app generation system. Among other things, it taught me that App Store Connect has many sharp edges showing how easy it is to abuse the kind of power you've correctly pointed out Apple has.

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Post by xalava »

In order to read this article you must redeem your privacy to more than a dozen companies or go through five screens with a confusing UX to change parameters. Oh Irony

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Post by basch »

damnyou wrote: post #281
basch wrote: post #258

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Yes they do https://bgr.com/2019/05/31/iphone-11-rumors-leaks-vs-android... AND https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-use-teens-2018/ >He works in IT at an unnamed company, and his team noticed something crazy: of the 500 employees at the company, only 8 of them chose to use an Android phone. Everyone else — all 492 of them — chose an iPhone over Android phones. It was because they didn’t want to be “green bubb…

Google and Facebook IDs work on Android, Windows and Linux.

Apple doesn't care. (despite me thinking they should, their biggest growth was right after iTunes for windows.) They care about offering services to their paying customers, not anyone else. If you don't buy their stuff, they don't care about you. Compared to fb/Google who care about you to make you pay attention to ads, it's a refreshing twist.

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Post by _bxg1 »

NateEag wrote: post #292
_bxg1 wrote: post #162

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Right. One of the big things about Apple getting into something, even if it's been done before, is that they carry enough influence to strongarm other companies into respecting their paying customers. It's great.

It strikes me as terrifying, personally, but to each their own. I have been responsible for creating and maintaining an app generation system. Among other things, it taught me that App Store Connect has many sharp edges showing how easy it is to abuse the kind of power you've correctly pointed out Apple has.

In a world where every other tech company swindles and manipulates consumers at every opportunity, I'm happy that at least one is incentivized to do the opposite, and has the power to do so.

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Post by pluffycat »

noelsusman wrote: post #245
basch wrote: post #205

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Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.

They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.

Fb and G screwed themselves by: forcing users to submit real cell phone numbers (no forwarding numbers allowed) and real names. I’m laughing all the way to the apple oauth signup. So tired of G and Fb abusing users

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Post by karmelapple »

Angostura wrote: post #277
gigatexal wrote: post #175

This single feature shown off today at WWDC has solidified my forever lock-in on all things Apple and especially iOS: no longer will my email be sold needlessly or be spammed and my logging into to different web properties sold to marketers and ad networks and data aggregators. I trust Apple a whole lot more becaUe they charge and arm-and-a-leg for high end hardware and soon services because the products and services…

Actually - does it lock you in, in a more literal way. If I sign up for a service using Apple Sign In, is then possible to sign into my account from a Windows etc machine subsequently?

There appears to be a web API for this, which would be cross compatible.

If you have used Apple's service - which is completely opt-in - you could always go into an account and change the email you associated with it if they let you do that. And if you don't, this would be in the ballpark of switching email providers - yup, you'll need to change some accounts, because you've decided to no longer pay for the service from the Apple email forwarding.

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Post by pluffycat »

maxheadroom wrote: post #236

This is a great idea but it kind of falls short. Elaboration with example: LinkedIn is notarious for swiping up any data points that it can find. Your carrier, your GPS location, etc. As long as there are two or more data points to successfully tie you to that id, it's already game over. It'll just be added to your "targeted advertising profile" and, given the wrong company getting ahold of it (looking at you, Equifa…

It’s a step in the right direction. One step at a time.

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Post by basch »

noelsusman wrote: post #245
basch wrote: post #205

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Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.

They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.

Feature parity for most people, not userbase parity.
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