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Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by duskwuff »

Shivetya wrote: post #23

I know being expandable is important here but I am stunned by the fact that an iMac Pro actually comes with better SSD and Video Card for less money and you get a screen to boot! 256g SSD is shameful, I don't care what they were thinking. No Nvidia support mentioned so I know a few that just wrote it off for that oversight alone. They will probably hold out just to be sure but that was the hope for them and others. W…

The first step up from 256GB is 2x512GB, and there's configurations up to 2x2TB. My guess is that the 256GB configuration is meant for users that work primarily with data that's kept on network storage.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by _ph_ »

Shivetya wrote: post #23

I know being expandable is important here but I am stunned by the fact that an iMac Pro actually comes with better SSD and Video Card for less money and you get a screen to boot! 256g SSD is shameful, I don't care what they were thinking. No Nvidia support mentioned so I know a few that just wrote it off for that oversight alone. They will probably hold out just to be sure but that was the hope for them and others. W…

256g of SSD would be appropriate under the conditions that a) this is a very basic and affordable configuration, so less than 3k and b) the machine would be user-expandable with NVMe drives or similar. Then you would get the minimal SSD just good enough to install the OS and put in third party storage to save money. And of course, you would want to be able to put in more than 4T of storage.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by minimaxir »

For developers, there's another constraint in investing in the Mac Pro: the increasingly high likelihood Apple will move to ARM:

> Mac Pro + display coming in at $11,000 a year or so before a switch to ARM is a hard nope from me. It's a little freeing, so I can now actually get a Mac mini

https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/11356329822896537...

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by nicoburns »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #44
bluedino wrote: post #17

The thing the Mac Pro does is magically make the price of every other computer look that much better. $6000 for a computer? Johnson, that's insane. What about $4999 for an iMac Pro? It comes with a display. Great, order it! What about $2499 for a Mac Mini with 32GB and 1TB SSD? Great, order it! What about $2499 for a Macbook Pro? Great, order it!

The 1987 Mac II released at $5,498, $12,125 adjusted for inflation. Granted, that included a monitor. IMO these things are designed for companies like Pixar, Disney, and aerospace, the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" world.

This is in the context of Apple increasing its prices to ludicrous levels across its product lines though (look at the iPhones!). I'm sure it's great for short-term profitability, but I think they'll come to regret this.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by h3throw »

reaperducer wrote: post #42
justinsaccount wrote: post #24

> The starting point for Mac Pro, the stainless steel space frame Only apple could manage to call a bent piece of metal pipe a "space frame". edit: getting downvoted because a "space frame" is a real thing. However, those are very specifically designed to be a "Three-dimensional truss based on the rigidity of the triangle" and this is absolutely not that. This apple co-opting an existing term for something and applyi…

Only apple could manage to call a bent piece of metal pipe a "space frame". Or every architect and engineer in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_frame

Only Apple could get shat on for using appropriate but obscure terminology.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by slantyyz »

reaperducer wrote: post #27

Hopefully this will stop people from moaning that "Apple has abandoned the pro market!" Or probably not. They'll just redefine "pro" to meet their complaining needs.

Well, if the baseline for the Pro market was made up of people who could afford the last version, then one can make the argument that Apple is the one that has redefined "Pro".

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by vbezhenar »

fooey wrote: post #41
vbezhenar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want tower case, silent and performant. I want powerful GPU for few games I'm playing. I want ECC memory. I want to put one or two HDDs along with main SSD. Mac mini does not sound like something I would like to use. I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place.

I don't know why people still keep waiting for Apple to support gaming in any way at all. Worse than just not supporting gaming, they're antagonistically blocking companies like Nvidia who tried to fill in the gap with external GPUs. https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/18/apples-management... If you want to game, you buy Windows, end of story.

Blizzard released a lot of games for macOS. Also I played Rimworld, Factorio recently and those games seems to have Mac version as well. I'm not very involved gamer, I just play sometimes and it seems that Mac supports almost all games I need.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by nenadst »

FigBug wrote: post #14

I think they took the name cheese grater too literally, it actually looks like one now.

was expecting to see a "april fools" banner to pop out any second during the segment (for the look, not the specs which seem quite interesting though (very) pricey)

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by aczerepinski »

gigatexal wrote: post #10

Complaining only signals that you are not the market they’re targeting. This is for Hollywood media makers, high end studios, etc. This was never to be a mass market item.

How many Hollywood media makers are there? As an Apple shareholder should I be excited to learn that they made a specialty computer for this demographic?
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