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Re: New Mac Pro

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Really excited to see the future of this hardware even though I'm not the target demographic. The ability to swap out with newer PCIe components down the line will be nice and it appears Apple is likely using some sort of desktop socket, so mounts and adapters for customizing the CPU will be available from 3rd parties eventually. Hopefully Intel doesn't change the CPU socket out from underneath everyone too soon. I'm…

$3,999 and $1,999 would have been so much more reasonable.

Re: New Mac Pro

#22

That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

I know this can be controversial but I do all my work at home on a computer I built myself for ~900 running macOS. I had a Coffee Lake processor before you could get one straight from Apple. It's fast and with three monitors, plenty of ram, and NVME storage I noticed increased productivity over a laptop with an external display.

With the T2 chip this may not be an option forever, and the initial setup means it may not be an option for everyone. But right now it feels like a very stable and viable option for those who were never going to buy a $6000 cheese grater in the first place.

Re: New Mac Pro

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I know being expandable is important here but I am stunned by the fact that an iMac Pro actually comes with better SSD and Video Card for less money and you get a screen to boot!

256g SSD is shameful, I don't care what they were thinking. No Nvidia support mentioned so I know a few that just wrote it off for that oversight alone. They will probably hold out just to be sure but that was the hope for them and others.

While I was never in the market for a Mac Pro, though the iMac Pro is not out of the question jump over the iMac top tier, I never expected such low starting specs for SSD and Video at this price point. 580X is old, 2017 old. If this is what they are struck with by not using Nvidia they have done everyone a disservice.

* did the spec this out in 2017 when they announced it and just locked it in?

* edit : Wrong on price, iMac Pro is 1,000 less than base Mac Pro

Re: New Mac Pro

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> The starting point for Mac Pro, the stainless steel space frame

Only apple could manage to call a bent piece of metal pipe a "space frame".

edit: getting downvoted because a "space frame" is a real thing. However, those are very specifically designed to be a "Three-dimensional truss based on the rigidity of the triangle" and this is absolutely not that. This apple co-opting an existing term for something and applying it where it doesn't make any sense.

Re: New Mac Pro

#25

Aesthetically, that's really quite loud. I'm surprised to see them ship something that doesn't fit their signature minimal & reserved look.

Can you provide details? I don't see them on the product specs page.

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#26

The price saddens me. The $6K base is twice the base of the 2013 Mac Pro when it was released. Some quick spec-ing for a somewhat-equivalent DIY build gives somewhere around $3K. The build I was already spec-ing for my next workstation has 2x RAM, 16x SSD, SFP+ NIC and is under $5K. I hope at least that the SSDs are standard M.2, but looking at the pictures I’m not sure they are.

No, they seem to be Apple-specific, as they are controlled by their T2 chip. So expect extremely expensive SSD too.

Re: New Mac Pro

#27
Hopefully this will stop people from moaning that "Apple has abandoned the pro market!"

Or probably not. They'll just redefine "pro" to meet their complaining needs.

Re: New Mac Pro

#28
Can people really use all this power with the GPUs offered?

The base is a 580X. The original AMD 7870 was a great gaming card in 2012... but boy the latest attempts to keep that thing going with the 480 and 580 are really pushing it. It's still a good budget gaming card but an embarrassment to offer with a Pro computer at that price.

I love that Vega 2 can come with so much RAM, but until the world moves away from CUDA, are there a lot of uses for this? Even if I got this desktop for free I'd have to use my old Windows PC for anything using the GPU because it has nvidia.

Re: New Mac Pro

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That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

It's competing against machines such as the Boxx dual-CPU workstations, which start at $8000 [1]. I can see movie studios and such shelling out the big bucks to buy these for their 3D modellers, but only the super rich would buy one for themselves. [1] https://www.boxx.com/systems/workstations/d-class

It's also competing against machines such as their own iMac Pro whose base model is the $1000 cheaper and has 4x the storage and a faster GPU aside from the built in 5K monitor.

That $8000 base model Boxx workstation has 20 cores instead of 8, 50% more RAM, and twice the storage.

Re: New Mac Pro

#30

That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

They just need some sort of minitower, a mac mini with a couple slots, a couple m.2 connectors and room for 64GB of removable memory..

I don't know why but I've thought something like that would almost be an ideal vehicle for xeon-d type parts.

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