Whatever happened to 'those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither', America?
US demands social media details from visa applicants
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Your reply was fine until you edited in that "woke" nonsense to try to make yourself sound clever.
It might just be that YOY growth without a rolling average is always going swing wildly when a country has a lot of negative news cycles in a year and then goes relatively quiet.
The US has been looking pretty bad, pretty consistently, for a long time now.
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#63All the more reason to not have them. Though email addresses? Are they demanding all pen-names too?
My fear is the day when the absence of a social media presence itself makes you a suspicious character in the government, and AI’s eyes.
Do you have any reason to believe that it hasn’t already come? You’re certainly a suspicious character in the eyes of some employers for non-tech (and occasionally tech) jobs.
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#64"The State Department regulations say people will have to submit social media names and five years' worth of email addresses and phone numbers . When proposed last year, authorities estimated the proposal would affect 14.7 million people annually." [0] [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48486672
I don't think they've thought about how precise 100% compliance is literally impossible for those of us with catch-all email domains, unless we have a record of every email address at that domain we've ever given out or through which we've received unsolicited email. (Yeah, I realize that in practice they will probably accept partial compliance in that scenario, and that it won't affect me as a US citizen. But it cou…
It can be advantageous for the government to issue laws that citizens can't comply with. That way they can prove you lied because you haven't provided this one e-mail address that they were able to trace to you. Now you're a liar and they can hold that against you.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
1 - no. The constitution explicitly only applies to US citizens / on US soil. That's the legal rationale for a lot of 'bad behavior' such as PRISM -- they can intercept undersea cable traffic to legally spy on foreigners, as foreigners lack constitutional rights. Nothing new there.
The constitution applies to anybody living on US soil.
Try buying a firearm while on a tourist visa.
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TBF, Turkey is cheaper for many people both in terms of transportation costs and the value you get for your money. I doubt it’s a coincidence rnce that the lira has been dropping so much in value (30% last year) that international shopping tours were organized Turkey is also trying to position itself as a transport hub so I’ve noticed a lot more people staying in the country for 1-3 days to see a few of the sights.
Going to the US is too expensive for many who aren’y in neighboring countries. It’s also hard to get around.
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#67My reddit throwaways too?!?
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#68Also discussed a couple of days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20065142
I has been discussed several times, including over a year ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16710838
I remember one thread which I can't find, which considered whether Hacker News counted as a site that should be disclosed. I also seem to remember a claim that having an account on a site with "Hacker" in the title was an automatic disqualification.
Hmm, this is the one I was thinking of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17635403
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.
EU travelers should understand - because the EU screens social media as part of visa applications too.
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#70If enough heretics have your name in their social network, your visa will be denied. Requiring social media on visa applications is like enforcing everyone to use Truecaller (don't use it!). This feels like the start of a U.S. social credit system.
Not a fan of this, but the US is late to the game -- and has received criticism because of it. Most developed countries already screen social media when processing visa applications.
oh, make no mistake the US /already/ screened this stuff. My now-wife had all her social media pages printed out and waiting for her on an entry to the US in the Obama years. Difference is now they can ban you for lying...