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Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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If enough heretics have your name in their social network, your visa will be denied. Requiring social media on visa applications is like enforcing everyone to use Truecaller (don't use it!). This feels like the start of a U.S. social credit system.

Not a fan of this, but the US is late to the game -- and has received criticism because of it.

Most developed countries already screen social media when processing visa applications.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

#42
One of the reasons immigration laws ask so many questions is to set up an easy way to deport unwanted people without the tedious bother of an actual trial.

This seems like a goldmine. Forgot an email? Didn't turn over your account details on pornhub? Had a single-use throwaway account you can't remember the password for? Congratulations, you qualify for easy eviction.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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> The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US I’m a millennial with lots of international millennial friends. Nobody likes these measures. But getting into most countries is no walk in the park. As much as I hate to admit this, the pressure to end these policies will never come from tour…

Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.

EU travelers should understand - because the EU screens social media as part of visa applications too.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US I’m a millennial with lots of international millennial friends. Nobody likes these measures. But getting into most countries is no walk in the park. As much as I hate to admit this, the pressure to end these policies will never come from tour…

Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.

>> "have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese"

Chinese passport is one of the worst in the world as far as travel goes. [1][2]

[1] https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_...

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

#45

I meet a lot of tourists on a daily basis, and I have not heard anyone say they want to visit the United States in a very long time. I can't imagine how much worse it is for people that are forced to travel there for business. If the United States is trying to isolate itself from the rest of the world it is definitely succeeding. As a side note, I have not spoken to a tourist from the US on the island where I live in…

What island are you on?

A Malaysian island in the South China Sea.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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1 - no. The constitution explicitly only applies to US citizens / on US soil. That's the legal rationale for a lot of 'bad behavior' such as PRISM -- they can intercept undersea cable traffic to legally spy on foreigners, as foreigners lack constitutional rights. Nothing new there.

> 1 - no. The constitution explicitly only applies to US citizens / on US soil. Why on earth do you say such things? Like, seriously, what's the point of saying something so easily refuted? Is this just to be inflammatory for the sake of it? The suggestion that the US Bill of Rights only applies to citizens is so unbelievably toxic and contrary to the history of the country I am saddened to even read the words. The B…

You should check this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on where you are coming from. Most of the Europeans that come through have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese. My Arab customers however have the money, but getting a visa is a near impossibility.

>> "have the financial means and strong enough passports to go pretty much anywhere they please. Same goes for most Japanese and Chinese" Chinese passport is one of the worst in the world as far as travel goes. [1][2] [1] https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Chinese_...

That doesn't seem to prevent millions of them from traveling every year.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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post #47
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1 - no. The constitution explicitly only applies to US citizens / on US soil. Why on earth do you say such things? Like, seriously, what's the point of saying something so easily refuted? Is this just to be inflammatory for the sake of it? The suggestion that the US Bill of Rights only applies to citizens is so unbelievably toxic and contrary to the history of the country I am saddened to even read the words. The B…

You should check this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Kleindienst v. Mandel does not take a stance on the matter of the reach of the Bill of Rights to foreign nationals and was instead decided on different grounds.

The fact that the government can be compelled to allow US citizens to cross the border irrespective of any enumerated standards is orthogonal to the reach of the first amendment to non-citizens. These are entirely different legal matters, and the case you're linking to was decided entirely on the former and not the latter.

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