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Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Citation? I've never heard of that.

Firefox (as well as Chrome) has blocked the Dissenter add-on because it supposedly violates their community standards.

Firefox hasn't blocked the extension as far as I know, they're "merely" not offering it on AMO anymore. You can still install it via the author's website.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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The state of the debate is unsatisfactory. Google employees such as Justin Schuh are aggressively defending the move on tech/security principles and denying commercial motivations, while uBlock Origin dev (Raymond Hill) says the change will cripple or kill uBO on Chrome and evil motives are its raison d'être . It's good that mainstream media articles raise the awareness of the issue, but a good technical discussion b…

The existing webRequest API lets extensions run arbitrary third-party code over all the requests you make, and Chrome won't process the request until it's done. That inevitably means that a badly written extension can hurt page loading performance, and a malicious extension can get a lot of sensitive data about you.

Whatever Google's true motivation is, there's no way to solve those problems without limiting the power available to ad blockers.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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The original article has an update (5/30) from a google spokesperson: “Chrome supports the use and development of ad blockers. We’re actively working with the developer community to get feedback and iterate on the design of a privacy-preserving content filtering system that limits the amount of sensitive browser data shared with third parties.”

https://9to5google.com/2019/05/29/chrome-ad-blocking-enterpr...

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Are there web developers in this thread? The only praise for a browser that I am hearing in this and similar threads is about how a browser is superior for content consumption (browser X is faster, etc.). It’s never about how one browser offers better developer experience than others. And I have not yet found a browser that is nicer to develop in than Chrom(e/ium).

Chrome's dev tools are quite a bit faster, but FF's dev tools give a better overview. IMO. In general, I'd say it's mostly personal preference and inertia.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

It’s not mainstream media. It’s a contributor site. You can pay some money and get one of your own. You can post whatever you want on there. They offer to do a little bit of editing and proofreading to make it look professional before it goes online. There is no fact checking. These contributor sites are essentially blogs that carry the credibility of Forbes even though they don’t deserve it. I see contributor sites…

What are the "qualifications of a journalist?" They are people with opinions that write stuff. If you think journalism and writing departments are teaching rigor and factual veracity, you are mistaken. I've only come to it recently, but Gell-Mann Amnesia Affect is something to be aware of and avoid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect?wpr...

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

Wow, I never knew/ expected MS to switch to Chromium. Given how much MS boasts about Edge's battery life over Chrome.

Hopefully Google leaves a workaround to enable ad-blocking. Otherwise, I will switch, it will be a bit of hassle, but I'll drop them none the less. No ads & lower power usage would be nice though.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/8/18300077/microsoft-edge-ch...

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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> With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable I'm not sure I understand your point. Is there a public statement from Microsoft that they are following Google on this? I don't know what Microsoft is going to do, but nothing stops them from keeping the API fully working. And if Firefox was based on Chromium too, nothing would stop Mozilla from keeping the API working either. Although I expect s…

MS new edge successor browser is built on chromium?

In 2019 the team basically switched to webkit/chromium

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

>With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future

Why are multiple rendering and JS engines critical for the browser ecosystem? Everyone would be much better off if we standardized on one.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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>Pocket I don't follow. How does a built in extension to save pages to a cloud account equate with the systematic and pervasive abuses of privacy that are Google's business model? >Gab I was not aware of this platform. Here are some lovely snippets from Wikipedia: >Gab stated that conservative, libertarian, nationalist and populist internet users were its target markets. What a lovely "free speech" platform. Can't im…

Ignoring the fact that pocket is a company with dozens of employees who curate content and calling it just an extension to save pages is deeply disingenuous. If you're right, why lie? Pocket suggests articles and lets you save them.

I'd be mad except that I often find the suggestions interesting. Don't really get the whole save for later thing, sounds like bookmarks.
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