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Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by rusticpotato »

ljm wrote: post #15
the_duke wrote: post #3

Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

I hope to see Firefox eventually providing an embeddable framework, considering that Chromium isn't just monopolising the web browser space... it's spreading into desktop applications through Electron. Left unchecked, Google will manage to poke its fingers into every pie within reach. It seems like the ideal solution of using the OS's native web toolkit hasn't been successful so far. So the next best offering (aside…

Sticking to the apple ecosystem will essentially avoid this fiasco with relying on electron apps.

Basically i see three developer types right now: windows, apple, Linux for primary (personal and office). Sticking to apple allows you to sidestep this windows cluster f of expensive apps and shitty electron apps, and the Linux void of polished apps.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by duck___sauce »

aioprisan wrote: post #107
wayneftw wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up Firefox Pocket and Firefox Gab/Dissenter.

Pocket, the easy to enable/disable way to save websites for reading later, and Gab, the far-right social network, as exposed by Columbia Journalism Review?

Pocket which by default suggests "pocket worthy" articles and ads on the new tab page (which after a while you get a feel for what "pocket worthy" actually means).

The other day I got one that made the case that both private schools and homeschooling should be illegal.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by mimsee »

torben-friis wrote: post #140
the_duke wrote: post #3

Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

I just wish they finally fixed the bug that makes it unusable for me and thousands of other users using macbooks with resolution set to "more space"... I can't count how many people in my office I've had to help after their macbook randomly starts heating and turning fans to max power, it's always that they started using firefox. I've been checking the tickets associated with the issue (mainly [this one]( https://bug…

yeah, I also noticed this and this is the one reason I wont be switching to Firefox on my macbook. On other PCs I’ve been using firefox for a long time now.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by duck___sauce »

andrepd wrote: post #118
wayneftw wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up Firefox Pocket and Firefox Gab/Dissenter.

>Pocket I don't follow. How does a built in extension to save pages to a cloud account equate with the systematic and pervasive abuses of privacy that are Google's business model? >Gab I was not aware of this platform. Here are some lovely snippets from Wikipedia: >Gab stated that conservative, libertarian, nationalist and populist internet users were its target markets. What a lovely "free speech" platform. Can't im…

Ignoring the fact that pocket is a company with dozens of employees who curate content and calling it just an extension to save pages is deeply disingenuous. If you're right, why lie? Pocket suggests articles and lets you save them.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by fernandotakai »

azangru wrote: post #114

Are there web developers in this thread? The only praise for a browser that I am hearing in this and similar threads is about how a browser is superior for content consumption (browser X is faster, etc.). It’s never about how one browser offers better developer experience than others. And I have not yet found a browser that is nicer to develop in than Chrom(e/ium).

i only use firefox for development -- i actually prefer its dev tools to chrome's.

also, since i'm the only one on my team that does it, i often get CSS issues that only appear on firefox because the frontend people are using chrome specific hacks.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by xenator »

jnwkw wrote: post #21
riamu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari is a terrible, Apple-like version of WebKit. The last viable windows version of Safari was abandoned 8 years ago, so please nobody use this browser.

Safari is the fastest browser I've ever used on mobile. It also supports ad blocking. Calling it "terrible" simply does not resonate with me. Chrome is slower and Firefox on mobile is a joke.

In last version of Safari uBlock shows warning that it is not supported anymore and slow down your browsing experience. Adblockers from App Store are limited by number of allowed rules the same way as in promised Chrome API changes. If we should start to worry about browser shift then Safari should be first in the list.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by lern_too_spel »

jnwkw wrote: post #21
riamu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari is a terrible, Apple-like version of WebKit. The last viable windows version of Safari was abandoned 8 years ago, so please nobody use this browser.

Safari is the fastest browser I've ever used on mobile. It also supports ad blocking. Calling it "terrible" simply does not resonate with me. Chrome is slower and Firefox on mobile is a joke.

> It also supports ad blocking.

It supports the same crippled ad blocking that this article complains about. It is also years behind the competitors in standards support, and the standards it claims to support are implemented buggily. Finally, it crashes more often than its competitors, but I suppose making a browser unusable is one way to save battery.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by rcthompson »

torben-friis wrote: post #140
the_duke wrote: post #3

Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

I just wish they finally fixed the bug that makes it unusable for me and thousands of other users using macbooks with resolution set to "more space"... I can't count how many people in my office I've had to help after their macbook randomly starts heating and turning fans to max power, it's always that they started using firefox. I've been checking the tickets associated with the issue (mainly [this one]( https://bug…

I wonder if this bug also applies to using the "Looks like 1280x800" option on a MBP with a 2560x1600 screen (this is what I use). The default is "Looks like 1440x900".

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by kwhitefoot »

jm4 wrote: post #128
the_duke wrote: post #3

Great to see mainstream media picking this up and giving Firefox some exposure. With Microsoft switching to Chromium, Firefox is now the only viable (cross platform) alternative. FF gaining back a solid amount of market share is critical for the browser ecosystem in the future. (Personally I switched back to FF after the first Quantum release, which brought performance back on par with Chrome. On mobile, the ad block…

It’s not mainstream media. It’s a contributor site. You can pay some money and get one of your own. You can post whatever you want on there. They offer to do a little bit of editing and proofreading to make it look professional before it goes online. There is no fact checking. These contributor sites are essentially blogs that carry the credibility of Forbes even though they don’t deserve it. I see contributor sites…

> carry the credibility of Forbes

What credibility is that? My impression is that they have lost quite a lot of what they once had for exactly this reason.

Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by lern_too_spel »

netman21 wrote: post #116
drevil-v2 wrote: post #27

Google is rapidly becoming persona non-grata in my view. There is something really, for the lack of a better word, scummy about it in the last year or two. We partnered with them on their DialogueFlow platform (voice recognition) for Google Home integration and voice command intent handling and they totally screwed us over. I won't/can't go into the specifics but it was bizarre; we had no recourse except taking a nea…

Last year or two? Read about Google censorship in China. This article is from 2006: http://www.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3749767

Google stopped censoring in China years ago, so in that respect, Google has gotten better. Meanwhile, Apple has handed iCloud keys to the Chinese government to access any Chinese user's data at will.
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