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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by the_jeremy »

jackewiehose wrote: post #591
gonational wrote: post #555

Firefox banned Dissenter[1], a plug-in that did nothing nefarious - only enables browser users of the plug-in to chat / comment with each other about webpages. They did this for political reasons. Regardless of what kind of trash talk takes place on Dissenter, the point is that nobody is forced to use it. My point: neither Google nor Mozilla should be trusted and both seek to be your totalitarian Internet overlord. 1…

But it looks like they didn't "ban" it, they just don't want to host it on their store [1]. As long as they don't refuse to sign these "problematic" add-ons, this is fine (although it's worrying that they are able to do so because of this signing-required-crap). [1]: https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-f...

At least one extension maintainer (yappy, a pushbullet alternative) says that they are unable to sign their extension because of the 3rd party library they use, so while they have both firefox and chrome extensions, only the chrome one works.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by brightball »

jdhawk wrote: post #393
brightball wrote: post #367

I want to, but the simple behavior issues of the LastPass extension force me to use Chrome just for it. I don’t know if its LastPass or a limitation of Firefox that’s causing it, but it’s enough of a headache for how often I use LastPass that it prevents me from switching browsers. Is there an alternative to LastPass that has a better user experience on Firefox? If so I’ll try it. EDIT: I'll test out Bitwarden.

BitWarden Unfortunately - my company is standardized on LastPass, so it makes it extra difficult

I’m making the switch now and everything seems good so far.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by azpekt »

apocalyptic0n3 wrote: post #652
OldSchoolJohnny wrote: post #629

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I dont' understand why any non casual users uses Mac for anything these days unless they feel like paying a stupid tax.

iTerm2 is a decent reason. I've tried to switch to Linux numerous times and I have yet to find a terminal app that is even half as good as iTerm. And command line tools on Windows are a joke currently, at least until the new one comes out soon (which looks good, but I doubt it will be better than iTerm). If you spend a lot of time in your terminal, being able to use the best one that behaves the way you want it to an…

Try Tilix. It has nice UI, a tons of cusomization, even quake-mode.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by wingworks »

opencl wrote: post #772
jb1991 wrote: post #724

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Yeah, unfortunately, Mozilla has consistently demonstrated over recent years that it doesn't care about Mac users. It's weird, to be honest. The widespread issues for many, though not all, Mac users, will not make it a ubiquituous browser.

From reading a lot of mailing list and bugzilla posts I get the impression that they do care about Macs but the current (very old) renderer is just never going to play nicely with MacOS without a major overhaul, and that major overhaul is Webrender which has been in development for several years but has yet to land in stable because writing a new renderer is just a really large undertaking. Webrender and planeshift s…

That's great to hear. I keep Firefox installed on MBP for dev testing and each time do the update and see if it's worth changing too. Hopefully, the answer will be yes once Webrender arrives and smooth Mac like scrolling.

It has come a long way, and I want to like it, just really hard in its current form.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ColanR »

opencl wrote: post #772
jb1991 wrote: post #724

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Yeah, unfortunately, Mozilla has consistently demonstrated over recent years that it doesn't care about Mac users. It's weird, to be honest. The widespread issues for many, though not all, Mac users, will not make it a ubiquituous browser.

From reading a lot of mailing list and bugzilla posts I get the impression that they do care about Macs but the current (very old) renderer is just never going to play nicely with MacOS without a major overhaul, and that major overhaul is Webrender which has been in development for several years but has yet to land in stable because writing a new renderer is just a really large undertaking. Webrender and planeshift s…

How close do you think webrender is to landing in stable? I've not heard much about it before.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by CalChris »

dror wrote: post #636

It is so clear to me that we need to support and promote mozilla and Firefox. They're not perfect, but they, wikipedia, eff, archive.org (who else?) are such an important part of the Internet guardianship in the face of the monopolies, that it's our duty to support them. Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product.

I already use Firefox on the iPhone. I think it’s better than Chrome. Probably gonna switch on the desktop.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by robin_reala »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #551
unsignedint wrote: post #450

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I would argue experiences of alternative browsers on iOS is somewhat artificially hindered... Not that I'm saying Safari is bad browser, but on iOS you can't really set other browser as your default browser, browsers can't use their own engines, etc. etc.

3rd party browsers are not able to make use of the Content Blocking supported by iOS, which is a major sacrifice to use Chrome.

That was originally the case, but I believe it was opened up in iOS 11? I certainly use Firefox iOS primarily and don’t see many if any tracking ads.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by Shorel »

saidajigumi wrote: post #640
hodder wrote: post #562

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This is risky behaviour though when dealing with other megacorps. Legal ramifications and antitrust suits come out of actions like that.

It's like Google found developer goodwill burdensome, and decided to pack it all up into container trucks and ship it all to Microsoft.

Skype is now owned and maintained by Microsoft. I don't see goodwill in either company.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by zizee »

mikedilger wrote: post #732
inferiorhuman wrote: post #704

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Not everyone is understanding what you're saying, as evident by the downvotes you're getting Well also I'd like the address bar to be a fucking address bar and not an address-but-sometimes-search bar.

Here are a few firefox settings to make your URL field behave only as a URL field: user_pref("keyword.enabled", false); user_pref("browser.fixup.alternate.enabled", false); user_pref("browser.urlbar.suggest.searches", false); user_pref("browser.urlbar.filter.javascript", true); You can put these in a "user.js" file in your profile directory if you don't have one already, or just set them in about:config

FWIW, I believe most if not all of these settings are also available under preferences | search.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by alluro2 »

sovnade wrote: post #765
latexr wrote: post #719

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> Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product. Arguably. On these threads there is always a handful of complaints about the state of Firefox, mostly on macOS. On my machine, I can’t even launch Firefox in headless mode without the fans turning on, which never happened on Chrome. While I haven’t benchmarked it, for normal browsing it does feel slower than Crome. But what kills it for me is their crippled App…

Headless mode maybe, but for regular users I don't think there's many issues. I'm running firefox as my daily driver on Mojave with no issues whatsoever. Without seeing this thread, I didn't even know there were issues with the mac version.

Just to add to the pile of anecdotal evidence - same here...I switched to Chrome some years ago when the speed difference was just too much to ignore and switched back to FF a couple of months ago after I started realizing the growing firmness of the cold grip Google has on the web more and more...There's absolutely no noticeable speed difference any more, fans on the laptop are as always and it's been smooth sailing since (on Mojave). The only thing that still annoys me when developing is the lack of websocket frame inspection - but as a "regular" user, no issues at all.
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