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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by tomjen3 »

Klonoar wrote: post #189
ljm wrote: post #134

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Is that true? IE was incumbent and Firefox unseated it. They had the legacy of Netscape, sure, but they didn’t throw the towel and reskin IE the same way other browsers of the time did. Besides that, at which point does the dominant search and advertising company of the internet get an antitrust case for this? People think google is trustworthy yet they do nothing to earn that trust.

This kinda erases history. IE was riddled with security flaws and stagnant beyond belief when Firefox usurped it. There was a compelling reason to use an IE alternative back then - they actually offered something IE couldn't give. Chrome doesn't have that problem.

Chrome might not have that many security holes, but if you browse without adblock you will quickly see just how festered the web is with horrible, horrible ads.

Chrome without adblock is essentially ie6, with tabs.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by andygates »

hkai wrote: post #618
bprasanna wrote: post #615

Now they are at the position where they can make the users dance to their tune. Im quite not sure if any decision makers at Google have a glance at HN on whats the reflection on their decisions. They just know that users are hooked to their platform all around (Search, Android, Chrome, Maps, GPay, GMail, etc.,) and they can decide where to be a dictator and where to be a humble servant. In the end, all they care is h…

You have just described business. A for-profit corporation is explicitly required, by its fiduciary duty to shareholders, to do what you are describing.

This is untrue. It's a particularly rapacious Wall Street meme, but a company can do whatever its board dictates, including not being a monopolizing monster.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by TheTruth1234 »

Zelphyr wrote: post #278

I’ve been hesitant to agree with calls in the past to break Google up, but now it’s time. This is Google choosing what’s best for their investors over what’s right for the community. This is Google doing evil.

Cannot believe I supported that shtty outfit ...

Google ... you were the chosen one. And you fcked it up.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by arbol »

yesforwhat wrote: post #561
redwards510 wrote: post #13

Google is essentially saying that Chrome will still have the capability to block unwanted content, but this will be restricted to only paid, enterprise users of Chrome. Never heard of a paid version of Chrome before! Can anyone elaborate on this? I gotta say I'm kind of glad Google is doing this. It will force me to finally abandon Chrome, something I should have done awhile ago.

Brave user here, 1/10 the CPU and memory usage and built on the same tech. Welcome!

Are brave in control of the web request API within their build? I know it's a fork of Chromium, just not sure how much is available for them to change.

I have been using brave for months and intend to continue if uBo keeps working. Braves internal ad blocking doesn't stop everything.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

behringer wrote: post #391
ljm wrote: post #98

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This is why it’s so unfortunate and frustrating that people are depending so much on Chromium/Blink. Electron, various browsers that are just skins over the embedded framework... We were still dealing with legacy IE6 (and IE 7/8 by that point also) in 2013! Almost a decade since we got Firefox and the first version of Chrome. The web has empirically suffered through homogeneity and the lack of strong competitors in t…

If it doesn't work in Firefox I don't use it. I've been using Firefox for as long as I can remember, probably shortly after it was made and Netscape died. And would never use Chrome. Chrome users are now going to be betrayed and just didn't see it coming. I look forward to Firefox' upcoming rebound which I have every faith this news will spur on.

Firefox are bankrolled by Google, and seem to make changes according to that relationship.

FF seems to be "still give your data to Google" (or other partners we force install for you) but for people who have realised that Chrome is "give all your data to Google".

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Post by kmlx »

sjwright wrote: post #433
sergiotapia wrote: post #418

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No shilling. Verified slow as balls on imac 2017, macbook air, macbook pro 2017 and macbook pro latest. Using ff developer edition.

I have an iMac 2015 and a MacBook (the one with the slow dual core ultrabook CPU). I use the normal edition of Firefox most of the time. I've never seen Clickup or JIRA run faster in any other browser.

Jira was the fastest for me in Chrome. Firefox was slower, Safari was slowest.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

starik36 wrote: post #480
toddwprice wrote: post #449

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I came back to Firefox a while back - maybe a year or two? - and have never regretted it. It's a fast, modern, respectful browser. Maintained by a non-profit. I do all my front-end dev work in Firefox, and also test in Chrome. Never had a problem. Come on back folks!

My experience exactly. The dev tools have caught up to chrome and in some ways surpassed it.

Chrome's audit (Google Lighthouse) is good.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

vorticalbox wrote: post #513
Mirioron wrote: post #506

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But doesn't Firefox require that godawful add-on signing?

Sadly yes, but the alternative is a browser that trackers you and that allows ads to also track you.

By default that's what FF does too, that's presumably what Google pay Mozilla hundreds of millions for.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by shawnz »

cortesoft wrote: post #404
unreal37 wrote: post #351

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The article says that current ad blocking extensions stops the request from even being made to the ad server, while the new version of Chrome will remove the ability for a plug in to stop a web request. Seems like a pretty major change to me.

No, I don't think that is correct. You can still stop a web request, but you can only stop it by providing chrome with a list of url patterns to block. The current method passes the url being requested to the extension, which can then decide to block it or not. The new way has the extension give a list of patterns to block to chrome, and from there it will block any request that matches. The stated reason is that thi…

It's not for privacy, the people who were saying that are either mistaken or intentionally lying. It's clear to see because the observational capabilities of the API aren't being removed -- only the blocking capabilities. So the privacy issue is still there. Supposedly, this change is just for performance.

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Post by kmlx »

josteink wrote: post #565
chris_wot wrote: post #413

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Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I gritted my teeth and just handled a few of the more bone-headed changes the Chrome team made, but this latest change is a deal breaker. The truth is, I actually don't need Chrome for anything. Firefox is faster now, gives me more freedom and has less corporate affiliations. I'll stick with Mozilla.

> Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I keep seeing people write stuff like this, and I just don’t get it. What’s keeping you? Why haven’t you switched already? I mean... it takes minutes at most.

from personal experience, it's the performance and bugs of firefox that keeps me away. for this reason i will not switch.
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