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Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Anyone who has shipped with FedEx knows how somehow everything you send goes through Atlanta. I'll bet this was just one of those "logistical efficiency" gone wrong kind of things. Or US intelligence requested the documents be diverted. Either is about equally likely I'd say.

Did you mean Memphis? Atlanta would love to take some or all that traffic away from Memphis since the Atlanta airport is woefully under utilized after midnight.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#52
post #17

Anyone who has shipped with FedEx knows how somehow everything you send goes through Atlanta. I'll bet this was just one of those "logistical efficiency" gone wrong kind of things. Or US intelligence requested the documents be diverted. Either is about equally likely I'd say.

Did you mean Memphis? Atlanta would love to take some or all that traffic away from Memphis since the Atlanta airport is woefully under utilized after midnight.

Maybe? I just remember it was somewhere on the other side of the country where my package from SF to LA had no business being.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#53

>Reuters could not verify the authenticity of the records. Shown the images of the tracking records, FedEx declined to make any comment, saying company policy prevented it from disclosing customer information. // So they're confirming that the images are customer data, which makes them authentic. If they weren't authentic then they wouldn't be customer information, no? >FedEx spokeswoman Maury Donahue told Reuters th…

> So they're confirming that the images are customer data, which makes them authentic. If they weren't authentic then they wouldn't be customer information, no? I don't think that assumption works. Reuters asked for specific customer information: in particular, whether the records were valid. Answering in the affirmative or negative is divulging customer data, and FedEx would be wise to avoid doing so whether or not…

You're right, I skipped over the "decline to make any comment" part.

But still, "this is not a valid receipt" doesn't reveal data about a customer transaction.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#54

I wonder what the backstory is to this. You don't issue a press release for two missing packages. And since they were "important commercial documents" I am assuming that US intelligence must have intercepted them for some reason.

It could be as simple as finding any excuse to put pressure on US companies.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#55

I really hope any US Commerce dept plans against Huawei completely backfire. Imagine in two years if Huawei has a stable, strong alternative to Android that takes over the Asian markets and even gets imported by American enthusiasts through 3rd party channels. I'd like to see someone break the Apple/Google dual-olopy.

> I'd like to see someone break the Apple/Google dual-olopy.

I am not sure that will happen here. But it sure does seem like that is the trajectory for China.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't getting assurances, they're being threatened with the loss of federal government business.

> they're being threatened with the loss of federal government business Criminal penalties for their executives are the real stick.

The CFO and daughter of the founder is currently held in Vancouver awaiting extradition to the US.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#57

I really hope any US Commerce dept plans against Huawei completely backfire. Imagine in two years if Huawei has a stable, strong alternative to Android that takes over the Asian markets and even gets imported by American enthusiasts through 3rd party channels. I'd like to see someone break the Apple/Google dual-olopy.

> I'd like to see someone break the Apple/Google dual-olopy. I am not sure that will happen here. But it sure does seem like that is the trajectory for China.

It’s not the trajectory, apart from a reliance on ARM the Android experience in China is pretty independent of anything overseas already, lacking the Play Store and all.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean Memphis? Atlanta would love to take some or all that traffic away from Memphis since the Atlanta airport is woefully under utilized after midnight.

Maybe? I just remember it was somewhere on the other side of the country where my package from SF to LA had no business being.

Yes, it's Memphis[1].

[1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=y3qfeoqErtY&t=1m51s

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#59

Hanlon's razor applies here. If there was truly something nefarious going on, why would FedEx update the tracking status to say that the packages were re-routed? Why not just say they were held up in the sending or receiving country?

Because there was nobody who thought about it.

We had a similar situation in Russia. A mobile operator was cooperating with government to hack into activists' Telegram accounts. They disabled SMS service for a user and then requested a password restore using SMS, intercepted it and got access. But they forgot to delete this information from their internal systems, so when the user called support, they told them that SMS service was disabled, and later even gave a signed confirmation about it.

I don't know whether the story from the article is true or not, but people tend to make such kind of mistakes. Imagine a typical accounting system, written on bunch of legacy technologies during last 20 years, and think how difficult it would be to remove all traces from all the databases and logs and not break anything. And tell every employee that would process the package not to scan it.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#60

Not related to this package delivery drama, but the way we are observing the live demolition of the world largest networking equipment maker and second largest smartphone maker (by number) in the name of trade war will never bring back the confidence in those who are flexing muscle. The illusion of the rule of law, free world, globalization and the reality of control is simply frightening, and worrisome.

What they're doing to Huawei will have nefarious consequences to the US. Who can ever trust a country that can use this kind of tactics to destroy a comercial competitor?
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