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Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by jedberg »

axaxs wrote: post #25
jedberg wrote: post #17

Anyone who has shipped with FedEx knows how somehow everything you send goes through Atlanta. I'll bet this was just one of those "logistical efficiency" gone wrong kind of things. Or US intelligence requested the documents be diverted. Either is about equally likely I'd say.

I tend to agree with the first half... Maybe I'm a bit tin-foil, but I feel like if intelligence was involved they'd just intercept it en route, and wouldn't bother sending it all the way back to the US, especially in a trackable way for that matter...

The second half was more of a joke. I agree with you, they would probably hide it, unless FedEx was dumb enough to mess up and show it when they shouldn't.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by jedberg »

exit wrote: post #28
jedberg wrote: post #17

Anyone who has shipped with FedEx knows how somehow everything you send goes through Atlanta. I'll bet this was just one of those "logistical efficiency" gone wrong kind of things. Or US intelligence requested the documents be diverted. Either is about equally likely I'd say.

i find it hard to believe any intelligence service would a.) literally reroute the package, instead of having some field agents in the origin country deal with it, b.) not suppress revealing the actual route on the fedex tracking website.

Agreed, it was more of a joke.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by sparkling »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #22

Hanlon's razor applies here. If there was truly something nefarious going on, why would FedEx update the tracking status to say that the packages were re-routed? Why not just say they were held up in the sending or receiving country?

Incompetence?

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by gkoberger »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #22

Hanlon's razor applies here. If there was truly something nefarious going on, why would FedEx update the tracking status to say that the packages were re-routed? Why not just say they were held up in the sending or receiving country?

There's lots of other potential reasons: maybe their system can't handle overrides, or maybe it's a canary so people know it's the government rather than their fault?

(But I do agree overall that it's probably nothing)

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by quink »

djsumdog wrote: post #23

I really hope any US Commerce dept plans against Huawei completely backfire. Imagine in two years if Huawei has a stable, strong alternative to Android that takes over the Asian markets and even gets imported by American enthusiasts through 3rd party channels. I'd like to see someone break the Apple/Google dual-olopy.

And next thing you know everyone in Germany will suddenly have an epiphany and switch to WeChat and get themselves a QQ.

Dumbest thing I ever heard.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by Gibbon1 »

samstave wrote: post #24
pushpop wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The back story could just as easily be a shipping error and Huawei trying to drum up anti-American sentiment as a counter to all the bad press the US have directed their way. Sure, it’s highly suspicious that a Hauwei shipment end up in America but equally it seems unlikely FedEx would be dumb enough to advertise that fact on their tracking page if they were ordered to divert said documents. I’m not suggesting there…

Another backstory is that huwai has long believed to be backdoring to chinese intel just as cisco has since the mid 90s... We arrested their cfo in canada and have been on attack with them since. The actual question is - the US has been doing this against them for quite some time now Mr smith. So... Did huwai just realize, or do they have enough anomalous tracking that they are leaking public to measure reaction. Loo…

I operate on the idea that everyone has been back dooring and breaking into everyone else's stuff forever.

I remember a picture I can't remember the details now but think the East Germans discovered a tunnel from West Berlin into a phone vault in East Berlin with a bunch of taps installed. That was in the 1960's. The Soviets were planting microwave recording devices on the east coast in the 1970's. The US has been tapping under sea cables since the 1970's. Maybe earlier.

Everyone's been trying to spy on everyone else. Commercial companies are either willing partners cough facebook cough or haplessly in the middle. Notable they threw Joseph Nacchio in prison for not playing along.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by viraptor »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #22

Hanlon's razor applies here. If there was truly something nefarious going on, why would FedEx update the tracking status to say that the packages were re-routed? Why not just say they were held up in the sending or receiving country?

Potential reason - they do not have a system that can split public/secret stops. They need tracking to be available for internal purposes (actual delivery) but never built the filtering features. (Or there is, but needs boxes to be checked explicitly and the box wasn't checked. Is there anyone from FedEx to throwaway comment? :-) )

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Post by hackermailman »

zupreme wrote: post #21

So many US corporations are sacrificing potential billions in global comsumer confidence and flat-out revenue loss backing the “trade war”. What assurances are they getting which makes them willing to take the leap, I wonder? At the end of the day any losses have to be explained to sharebolders, regadless of political loyalties.

The Huawei 'war' is between the 5 Eyes Alliance countries and China, not just the US. If you live in Canada, Australia etc, you have persistent propaganda being released in the media warning of the evils of Huawei 5G hardware.

My cynical view is Huawei has some sort of edge on competitors to quickly deploy 5G around the world (state subsidies possibly), and the 5 Eyes Alliance will lose their 'information dominance' as once expressed by Gen Alexander, so the option was to start flexing against Huawei with 1980s cold war style aggression to slow them down.

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