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Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Not to a CIA "load station" ? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...

They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US?

It doesn't make sense to be anything other than an error and Huawei being paranoid (rightfully so, but still).

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

#12
China is collapsing economically, demographically, financially, morally, spiritually, and running out of friends. This trade war (and eventually, complete disentanglement between US and China), is driving the old men in communist party nuts. Thus a ton of erratic behaviors from China and Huawei.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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I wonder what the backstory is to this. You don't issue a press release for two missing packages. And since they were "important commercial documents" I am assuming that US intelligence must have intercepted them for some reason.

The back story could just as easily be a shipping error and Huawei trying to drum up anti-American sentiment as a counter to all the bad press the US have directed their way.

Sure, it’s highly suspicious that a Hauwei shipment end up in America but equally it seems unlikely FedEx would be dumb enough to advertise that fact on their tracking page if they were ordered to divert said documents.

I’m not suggesting there isn’t something deeper going on that governments are keeping classified, however if there is then they’re doing a good job of keeping it a secret by making this trade war sound like petty bickering.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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post #11
post #2

Not to a CIA "load station" ? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...

They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US? It doesn't make sense to be anything other than an error and Huawei being paranoid (rightfully so, but still).

Possibly because if the USG were caught reading foreign companies' documents on foreign soil it would be a violation of countless international treaties, which would make the ongoing trade and infosec tensions worse, versus "whoops, this landed on our doorstep, we can do whatever we want on our soil". The fact that this can be easily chocked up to a logistical error is good cover.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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post #11
post #2

Not to a CIA "load station" ? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...

They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US? It doesn't make sense to be anything other than an error and Huawei being paranoid (rightfully so, but still).

They just want you to think they were documents. The question is why ...

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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> FedEx spokeswoman Maury Donahue told Reuters the packages were “misrouted in error” and that FedEx was not requested to divert them by any other party.

Scout's honor. Sounds a lot like Huawei saying it was just a coding error. Would they get away of a spying accusation with this? If it can happen in the US (FedEx, Cisco) it can surely happen in China.

It's strange seeing people defending this as "probably an error" and perfectly acceptable when coming from one side but definitely intentional and totally unacceptable from the other.

The hypocrisy is strong in this one...

P.S. For the casual observer, please note that this comment is not about which company is guilty and how (un)acceptable that may be.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Anyone who has shipped with FedEx knows how somehow everything you send goes through Atlanta. I'll bet this was just one of those "logistical efficiency" gone wrong kind of things.

Or US intelligence requested the documents be diverted. Either is about equally likely I'd say.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US? It doesn't make sense to be anything other than an error and Huawei being paranoid (rightfully so, but still).

They just want you to think they were documents. The question is why ...

Are you now implying that Huawei is lying about them being documents to cover up what they were actually shipping or something?

(I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not)

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just want you to think they were documents. The question is why ...

Are you now implying that Huawei is lying about them being documents to cover up what they were actually shipping or something? (I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not)

My comments so far have been very tongue in cheek, I must admit.

To me, it appears as a Chinese way of saying they are are as much at the mercy of US logistics as the Western World is at the mercy of Huawei's logistics ( 5G ).

edit: even it when it is not true, the message comes across.

Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'

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Having done logistics this happens all the time in international parcels. I saw 0.5% of parcels have some massively weird routing error to countries that made no sense.

If this had been a us govt request they wouldn’t have scanned the packages at the sorting facilities in the US!

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