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Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by snvzz » Mon, May 27, 2019, 1:32 PM UTC

redsparrow wrote: post #121

MrGilbert wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could pick a Ryzen with "G", like the Ryzen 5 2400G, though... They have an integrated GPU.

Unfortunately there were no desktop G parts (APUs) on the Zen+ architecture (as far as I know.) And they're not in the first round of Zen 2 either. The 2400G, which I think is currently the top desktop APU, launched in Feb. 2018 and has four cores.

Nothing stops integrators from using the 3xxxU parts and the old 2xxxG parts.

Regardless, I do expect G parts will be announced soon, too. 3 CPUs definitely isn't a full lineup.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by blattimwind » Mon, May 27, 2019, 1:38 PM UTC

onli wrote: post #210

carc1n0gen wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2xxx series is zen+, also ops complaint was about current gen ryzen, which the 2200G and 2400G fall in to.

Those APUs are a weird mix between Zen and Zen+, they got improvements over Zen but they are not fully Zen+, and they even have some unique drawbacks (the TIM, they are not soldered).

Complaining about TIM on an entry-level processor seems... questionable.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by andy_ppp » Mon, May 27, 2019, 1:39 PM UTC

Any chance I can have a Mac Mini with a 3700X in please?

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by SketchySeaBeast » Mon, May 27, 2019, 1:40 PM UTC

DuskStar wrote: post #23

loser777 wrote: post #12

Biggest surprise seems to be the 65W 8/16 3700X. Hopefully that means a bit of overclocking headroom.

Considering that the 105W 8/16 3800X only gains 300MHz base and 100MHz turbo for the extra 40W, I'm not sure that's the case. Still almost certainly what I'll be replacing my 4790k with though

Yeah, I think this might finally be the reason to replace my old Haswell.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by onli » Mon, May 27, 2019, 1:45 PM UTC

blattimwind wrote: post #232

onli wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those APUs are a weird mix between Zen and Zen+, they got improvements over Zen but they are not fully Zen+, and they even have some unique drawbacks (the TIM, they are not soldered).

Complaining about TIM on an entry-level processor seems... questionable.

I was just highlighting that there are differences.

Though that temps are higher because of that, resulting in more work for the cooler, is not ideal for a CPU that's apart from that great for a HTPC.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by paranoidrobot » Mon, May 27, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #222

dmix wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you work on a desktop machine? At home?

Uhm, yes? What else would you do work on at home? On a laptop, with its shitty position for the head, back and the hands? I do have a laptop but that's purely for entertainment - my work is done 100% on a desktop, both at home and in the office.

Laptops with Thunderbolt 3/USB-C are pretty great for use with a docking station.

I get the advantage of having nice large monitors, proper clicky keyboards and mice, and the ability to charge/power the laptop - all over one cable. When I want to move away from the desk - unjack and keep going.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by dewyatt » Mon, May 27, 2019, 2:01 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #93

gigatexal wrote: post #77

Yup. Just waiting on the benchmarks from independent reviewers and to see how XFR in this generation works but I’ll be getting a Ryzen 9 if everything checks out. 24 threads will be amazing for local development (microk8s, and others) when I’m not gaming and save me from having to build a separate box.

Do you work on a desktop machine? At home?

I work pretty much 100% on my desktop at home every day. Only reason I'm on a laptop right now is because of a power outage.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by rpastuszak » Mon, May 27, 2019, 2:04 PM UTC

fnord123 wrote: post #130

WC3w6pXxgGd wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What will you be doing that will actually use 24 threads?

Run electron apps.

Funny, never heard this joke on HN before.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by dewyatt » Mon, May 27, 2019, 2:04 PM UTC

lettergram wrote: post #28

Finally! I’ve been using a Ryzen 1800x since it’s release. Unfortunately, it has some stability issues and I’ve been waiting to upgrade on the Ryzen 3000, 7nm line. This is going to be a solid 75%+ boost to performance, given I regularly max out my machines threads. Pretty amazing improvement in 2 years.

My desktop w/a Ryzen 1800x still randomly freezes. I disabled most of the power saving features in the UEFI, which definitely reduced the frequency but it still happens on rare occasions. :(

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, May 27, 2019, 2:07 PM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #233

Any chance I can have a Mac Mini with a 3700X in please?

AFAIK Apple has zero macs with AMD cpus. Also I've heard about issues running macOS even in virtual machine on AMD hardware. So I have my doubts about that. You're more likely to have RAM Mac Mini.