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I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…
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You could pick a Ryzen with "G", like the Ryzen 5 2400G, though... They have an integrated GPU.
Unfortunately there were no desktop G parts (APUs) on the Zen+ architecture (as far as I know.) And they're not in the first round of Zen 2 either. The 2400G, which I think is currently the top desktop APU, launched in Feb. 2018 and has four cores.
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Run electron apps.
I know this is a joke but aren't Electron apps single threaded by nature and usually memory hogs? So more memory would be better and having many cores is good too.
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make -j24
Be sure to have enough RAM, so you will not run out of it. (For some reason, when building projects like LLVM with -j 16, 32 GB w/o swap may be not enough. With -j 2, it is enough, but takes an eternity).
No 5GHz, I'm disappointed. Was considering switching to AMD, but Intel looks better. I'll wait for Threadripper announce, though, may be they'll release something powerful.
This may be an oversimplification. There is more to it than just megahertz or gigahertz. The most important metric in this case is work done per clock, on average.
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NH-U12A. And yeah, it's fairly expensive for an air cooler.
Thanks! Been a couple years since I built a new PC, and it's helpful to have that info for anything I might build soonish.
It makes researching and comparing a bunch of brands and parts as well as waiting for the best times to buy a breeze.
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Unfortunately the market with low power AMD cards is non-existent. Maybe some older HD model if you can find it second-hand, but those can't do 4K@60Hz. There is no low powered (=passive cooling) card based on the recent AMD chips. I wanted GPU with only passive cooling for my Xeon machine, had to buy lowend NVIDIA. Hopefully Navi at the end of the year will finally change this.
What are you talking about? you can get RX550s that are passive or even one of the rare RX560s which are passively cooled
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Could be that it'll still continue to have stability issues. For some reason Ryzens are extremely picky when it comes to memory. There's really no guarantee that 3-rd gen will resolve this issue. It's to the point where e.g. Corsair makes memory specifically designed to work with AMD CPUs. This memory typically contains Samsung B-die chips which work fairly well.
No, the stability issues they're talking about are on a release day 1800X. It's not memory issues, and I've never had memory issues with either of my Ryzen processors. This is the issue they're certainly talking about: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Se... And it is assuredly not a problem with any Ryzen processors manufactured after the very first few months.
After applying workarounds, I still see some strange crashes, not sure if at least some of those are still related to the CPU hangs from the bug above. TBF this might not be the CPU's fault. This is all quite annoying to me and time intensive to investigate (where do I even start?). Even though I really like AMD's tech I am quite frustrated and I haven't had these problems with my previous Intel builds so far...
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Unfortunately there were no desktop G parts (APUs) on the Zen+ architecture (as far as I know.) And they're not in the first round of Zen 2 either. The 2400G, which I think is currently the top desktop APU, launched in Feb. 2018 and has four cores.
2xxx series is zen+, also ops complaint was about current gen ryzen, which the 2200G and 2400G fall in to.