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"The voluntary CrossFit community of 15,000 affiliates and millions of individual adherents stands steadfastly and often alone against an unholy alliance of academia, government, and multinational food, beverage, and pharmaceutical companies."

Paranoid much? Or perhaps it is Crossfit that gets it wrong?

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kipping is fucking hilarious

What's hilarious about using momentum to progress to a muscle up and eventually a strict muscle up? In my observation, and this is at many gyms (btw I don't do Crossfit), very few people do every rep of a pull up from a true dead hang. Kipping is silly looking, but the technique does allow you to progress your way into a muscle up, kind of like a push press can help you train your strict press past what you otherwise…

That’s because people are impatient and weak. Dead hang pullups are real pullups.

Kipping only leads you to kipping muscle ups. Go on YouTube and see examples of real muscle ups from dead hangs with no momentum. That is true strength, and a worthy goal. The sooner you stop kipping, the faster you can get there.

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#83

> 2. Facebook collaborates with government security agencies on massive citizen surveillance programs such as PRISM. It's slightly weird to only find this an issue _after_ your Facebook page with 1.65m fans has been deleted. The tone of this piece comes over as really off and aggressive generally.

Is it though? I've seen the same thing played out before in other contexts. Someone being abused/taken advantage off, but making lots of money, so they keep their mouth shut. Once they get fired / stop being profitable, they're free to call out what bugged them.

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#84
I've been doing Crossfit since December and wow.

That manifesto I just read there was pretty scary and cult-like, complete with totally off-topic jabs at socialism and uh, science?.

I'm having a hard time reconciling that with what my wife and I have experienced at our local Crossfit gym, which has been among the most supportive and pressure-free experiences I've ever had in my life.

To be honest, nobody's ever even mentioned diet to me there and I'm pretty overweight. The Crossfit diet seems to be low-carb, high-protein, high-vegetable which frankly is very sensible and not exactly extreme.

One thing I'd been warned about before doing Crossfit was that they don't always teach proper form for weighted exercises and that therefore there's an injury risk. I've been very wary about that. But the instructors at my gym are super responsive and proactive when it comes to my form. High marks there.

As others have said, Crossfit gyms are independently operated. Culture is going to vary by gym. I suspect (like anything else) the gyms that garner the most attention are the ones that are kinda on the fringe and not the majority where you go do fun/grueling workouts with a supportive community.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's hilarious about using momentum to progress to a muscle up and eventually a strict muscle up? In my observation, and this is at many gyms (btw I don't do Crossfit), very few people do every rep of a pull up from a true dead hang. Kipping is silly looking, but the technique does allow you to progress your way into a muscle up, kind of like a push press can help you train your strict press past what you otherwise…

That’s because people are impatient and weak. Dead hang pullups are real pullups. Kipping only leads you to kipping muscle ups. Go on YouTube and see examples of real muscle ups from dead hangs with no momentum. That is true strength, and a worthy goal. The sooner you stop kipping, the faster you can get there.

I have the greatest respect for gymnasts, because they are basically top of the heap for pound for pound strength. It's not an area of expertise for me though, so please enlighten me: if using momentum to get a kipping muscle up and then gradually reducing the momentum assist until you can do it strictly isn't the right progression, what is?

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> If you can't use proper form on a rep, don't do the rep. It's that simple. This is sorta disingenuous. A layman can't tell if they're doing an exercise correctly without instruction, and you can do something correctly 99 times and still becomes seriously injured by doing it incorrectly one more time. I'm not trying to make an argument that you shouldn't exercise but it's definitely not "simple."

It is not disingenuous. Many crossfit exercises are complex as you correctly observe and require a good bit of practice before you can do them w/ any substantial weight. A layman should not do them w/out instruction and a good coach will not let laymen do regular workouts until they have mastered the basics. A good coach also observes a new student's abilities and advises them how to scale the movement properly as th…

I did CrossFit for 5 years and a shoulder surgery and visited about 30 gyms during that time. What you’re saying isn’t disingenuous but it’s thoroughly idealized and unrealistic.

Workouts with high volumes of technical movements are regularly programmed. RFT workouts with 60 snatches. High volumes of kipping pull-ups. Form goes to shit when you get tired, period, whether you are running or snatching, but being on a clock does not lend itself to slowing down, setting up right, and doing a technical movement with good form. It’s completely antithetical to it.

The coaching quality at CF gyms is widely varied and in my experience most of the folks regardless of their great intentions have no business coaching that many people doing that many complex movements.

There are much safer ways CF could be doing things. Ditch snatches and kipping pull-ups for a start. Snatches are dangerous when done improperly and kipping pull-ups are specifically bad for shoulder joints in individuals who have not built up enough strength to do several strict pullups.

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Two things stand out to me as startling/interesting.

First, CrossFit is sort of presenting FB as a public health threat. Obviously it is, but I don’t hear a lot of entities make that argument.

Second, CrossFit is doing a role reversal, saying that they will place FB under review, they will decide if FB is an appropriate platform for them. In a way, they’re assuming a dominating position (yes everyone knows FB is bigger/stronger, but you can still scare bears off by shouting and looking large, and even weaker players can find upper hands or shift position). That’s a strange take on receiving FB’s perceived abuse that I have not observed before.

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Last I checked there wasn’t CrossFit for basketball. You should compare apples to apples. How does it stack up against (trained) non-CrossFit weight training? Judging by how those idiots abuse gym equipment I’d expect poorly, but prove me wrong.

I power-lifted. I got injured. Many of us did. It's much higher. Even the studies show it: https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/wp-content/u... https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2014/07/08/i...

Powerlifting is definitely not the same as general CrossFit and is pretty obviously a dangerous sport. I would guess that based on the amount of jerking and twisting I see in CrossFitters doing powerlifting that the injury rate would be higher still within that specific discipline. Again, all speculation on my part.

I’m thinking an intense workout with good form and control vs. a standard CrossFit workout.

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Uh this is typical cultish reaction to being called out: accuse others of doing exactly what you yourself are doing. I'd like to remind everyone here, in case you are considering crossfit, that several years ago they caused a rash of cases of rhabdomyolysis. So in response they created a clown character called "Uncle Rhabdo" which they attached to propaganda that tried to convince their members that this possibly fat…

Did CrossFit for 5 years and a shoulder surgery. During that time I visited about 30 gyms all over the US. At no point did I ever see rhabdo treated as anything but a serious concern. There was a gym somewhere that did that Uncle Rhabdo stuff but it’s inaccurate to act as though that is or was the prevailing attitude in CrossFit.

I have several issues with CF but this idea that rhabdo is glorified is not true.

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