As long as they dont do away with the Touch Bar, I am not going to get one. People use machines with real keyboards for a reason. Ruining that experience by forcing a touch component onto a keyboard user is just absurd!
Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro
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weird I'm on an early 2013 MBP (original battery) at 81% health (226 cycles)
That's a shockingly low health for a battery with that few cycles. Actually, if you use your computer every day, that's a small number of cycles…
2012 MBP here: 87.3% health (6900 mAH as designed, 6021 mAH now) on 871 cycles, 2533 days old. Pretty impressed with it really. I use this Mac a lot.
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#893After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…
I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…
Running a 2017 MBP model at work here, have all those issues and more. My Bluetooth chip somehow freezes without fail after X hours of usage and requires a hard power cycle to fix, often if I put it to sleep on a night I wake it up to a kernel panic message.
I have a 2013 MBP at home that I still use every night, the worst thing that has happened to it in all those years of daily usage is 3 of the feet have fallen off. The thing has been an absolute champ and I would have dropped serious money on another by now if they hadn't changed it.
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#894After the keyboard on my 2017 MBP started to fail, I “upgraded” to a 2018 model because I couldn’t afford to be without a machine for a week or longer. Now the keyboard on this supposedly improved model is also starting to go. For many years I was a very happy Apple customer and even converted several family members to MacBooks. But now that Apple has shown just how little regard they have for their pro customers by…
What made you stop doing iOS development? I would consider a Mac Mini for that and remote into it from a decent machine.
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Do you have benchmarks that show anything like this? Or are you referring to the firmware bug that was fixed shortly after release, last year?
Everything thermal throttles, that's what turbo is. The issue last year was because Apple was applying the thermal throttling in such a way as to make the average performance of the CPU significantly lower than it needed to be by throttling too much, too quickly then recovering to too high of a clock speed too quickly thus ping-ponging between a very fast/high/hot state and a very low/cool state. In many cases the CP…
> a properly designed system invariably follows that general profile
... unless the system was designed to handle the thermal load, in which case it would not thermal-throttle and you'd see a sustained clock speed.
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Have one of the new 15" macbook pro with touch bar. My keyboard will never break simply because I never, ever use it. It's awful to type on, possibly the worst keyboard I've ever used. As is the track pad. I have a mouse plugged into it so I don't have to use the track pad. My MBP is basically a compact desktop machine and for that it is great. Fast and responsive.
Did something change regarding the trackpad? MacBook trackpads have always been at the top of the class, far better than any other manufacturer by leaps and bounds.
As swiftcoder says.
It's massive, needlessly so in my opinion.
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#897Wish there was an option to buy a 15 inch with no touch bar. I cannot find any suitable use for it on my current model, and I often hit items inadvertently due to the lack of tactile feedback
I just want a MBP that is a late 2013 body with modern hardware inside it. I know there are many others like me.
GPD Pocket Max.
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#898900+ comments and basically all about the HW issues (keyboard, display connector) and uselessness of the touchbar. Doesn't look good for Apple.
(I had to replace my 2015 MBP13 with the a late 2018 model. I am too mightily disappointed and would not buy a new Apple laptop).
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weird I'm on an early 2013 MBP (original battery) at 81% health (226 cycles)
What software are you using to get the percentage? My Early 2015 MBP is on around 300 cycles but not sure how to get the percentage.
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I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…
Just walk away from the Mac. Windows is perfectly viable for doing development, so is Linux. You can easily get a laptop that is cheaper and more reliable than a Macbook. About the only thing you'll be missing is a cool Apple sticker, but you can get those on eBay. Your wallet will thank you, and so will your fingers. A Macbook was a reasonable, even logical choice in 2012. Now, not so much. Apple can have me back if…
I moved away from the Mac for 3D work a few years back just because CUDA based rendering engines were such a game changer. I was totally expecting the experience to just be gritting my teeth and dealing with Windows for the power, but actually I've been pleasantly surprised that it's honestly improved a lot and MS is taking the approach of tackling one or two pain points a year consistently, like modernizing the Terminal this year and I'm sure one day they'll get to Explorer which is the last thing that bugs me.
I also bought a Surface Go recently and this has convinced me I could move away from Mac completely (To a Surface Pro) if need be, the industrial design is excellent, the keyboard is an absolute joy to type on and it's so versatile, like a "Pro" machine should be.