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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

copperx wrote: post #839
jordache wrote: post #783

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the touchpad performance on the mac is second to none. Can modern windows or linux come even close?

Absolutely not. The good thing is that any extended development session calls for an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse/trackpad. Also, you can use the external Apple trackpad they sell with any OS.

> The good thing is that any extended development session calls for an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse/trackpad.

For you. I do all my development on a 13" laptop.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by copperx »

ridicter wrote: post #245
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I'm a UX engineer who recently switched from Macbook Pro to the Ubuntu version of Dell XPS 13. Now that I use Figma, a web-based design app, I no longer need any Mac-native design software. I am pretty pleased! The XPS 13 has an edge-to-edge display/small footprint, the top of the line whiskey lake processor, 16GB of RAM, and a crazy-good battery life. (I opted for 1080p screen instead of 4k to get that 10+ hr batter…

That sounds awesome, except a low resolution screen (1080p) is a no-go in 2019. So far I haven't heard of anyone being pleased with Linux or Windows milquetoast hiDPI support.

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Post by saagarjha »

biztos wrote: post #613
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Slack and Outlook - I either use the web versions or just use my phone. They are both cross platform battery killers. Docker - I don’t use it, but if it’s anything like the VMs I use to run, it also kill batteries. I’m better off provisioning all of that on our DEV AWS Account and just connecting via my phone’s hotspot if I don’t have a reliable network connection and running very few things locally.

I recently discovered the web Slack and am trying to use it more. Seems to help, which ought to be a huge embarrassment to $WORK or whatever they call it. I used to use Outlook Web and might go back. The native client is a nightmare but does some useful things the web one doesn’t. Docker has been a huge boon to my dev efforts, usually much lighter weight than an old school VM, so I’m no hater but if I had to work on…

> I used to use Outlook Web and might go back. The native client is a nightmare but does some useful things the web one doesn’t.

Is Mail.app, or some other mail client, an option for you?

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Post by TylerE »

saagarjha wrote: post #845
apl002 wrote: post #621

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Ha! I literally typed out another comment about how I to refuse to leave my 2015 macbook pro for a newer model. The new keyboard, touchbar and usb-c everywhere is so lame

> usb-c everywhere is so lame Do you mean "not having anything other than USB C is lame", or "I dislike USB C and wished Apple had gone with something else"?

Personally I’m still bitter about the death of MagSafe, which was the greatest thing ever.

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Post by saagarjha »

copperx wrote: post #840
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I upgraded from 2015 to 2018 at work recently and then went back to IT and asked if I could change my mind and trade back. The 2015 is nicer.

The 2018 model shouldn't be called an upgrade in any way.

It's faster…

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ianwalter wrote: post #658
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At least Lenovo just ditched their Touchbar after the disastrous 2nd generation of X1 Carbon, never to be seen again. Also did a mistake with the 2014 series of ThinkPad by removing the mouse buttons due to a bigger touchpad, just to give them back when the users complained enough in 2015. Have to give them credit for that.

I would not give them credit for not being able to create a touchpad as good as Apples and just giving up. The MacBook touchpad is an amazing piece of hardware. I still think its too big now, but the hardware itself is one of the best things about the MacBook.

And I'll add the obligatory comment how us ThinkPad users enjoy our keyboard with the TrackPoint, experience no other manufacturer provide. I'd just remove the touchpad for more keys to the keyboard.

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Post by saagarjha »

scarface74 wrote: post #605
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yeah no shit, apple only wants you to run macos on their hardware.

Directly from Apple’s support page. “Install Windows 10 on your Mac with Boot Camp Assistant” https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201468

Has Apple ever officially stated that they support running Linux on Macs?

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Post by saagarjha »

apl002 wrote: post #618
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

i refuse to let go of my 2015 model because i can't stand the new ones. Not sure what I am going to do when it stops receiving new OS upgrades

Based on historical evidence, you'll likely get updates for another half decade or so.

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Post by maremp »

endymi0n wrote: post #111
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

Interesting, I’ve never experienced these usability problems. Maybe accidentally hit the touchbar once or twice a day for the first week, before I got used to it. BTW you can customize the touchbar to move stuff around so it’s not in the way of your fingers (e.g. top-right corner). But yeah it sucks and there’s no real use-case for it, the standard keys are way better. The only thing I like about it is the TouchID, but they’ve showed with air that it can be a standalone thing.

The usb-c transition happened too early, it’s annoying that you can’t even plug in an usb if you forgot to bring the dongle. The nice thing about it is being able to plug the charger at any port, but that’s no reason to have only the usb-c ports.

Agree on the OS, I’ve probably bought into their ecosystem way too much to make a smooth transition away. Also the trackpad experience is still superior. But the list of reasons why I would buy a macbook after this one bites the big one is getting shorter.

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Post by pcollinsmokonut »

hliyan wrote: post #812
golfer wrote: post #261

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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

Also typing on a 3+ year old 2015 MBP. Touchwood no issues except for a slightly wonky right speaker. I hope I can extend its life until Apple comes to its sense, or it'll have to be a Dell XPS for me...

Same here. My right speaker is blown out. Go to settings and set the fader to left. Not sure if the speaker can be fixed.
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