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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by pimeys »

nextos wrote: post #496
Symbiote wrote: post #390

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I have the previous generation NUC, a NUC7i5BNH, as my home computer. I put it in a Akasa fanless case, and it's wonderful — it's completely silent. I use Kubuntu, since I've been using KDE for 15 years. I use 5% of the configuration options — just by looking, you'd think it was a default install — but I really miss that 5% if I'm on a Mac or Windows.

Came here to say the same thing. If you can avoid using a laptop, I know many people can't, a desktop buys you a lot of freedom. Freedom to choose good components, a fanless case, and a functional OS like NixOS.

I've been using a desktop at work for the last ten years and hopefully to the foreseeable future. With a price of a MacBook pro you get 16-24 cores, good cooling facilities, 32-64 GB of RAM and excellent Linux support.

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Post by dawnerd »

jazoom wrote: post #558
dawnerd wrote: post #139

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OLED is not a very good idea for a computer monitor currently with their pretty bad image retention. Go look at the iPhones at Best Buy. You can see they have pretty bad retention (unless your Best Buy is good and replaces the phones often).

I have never seen retention on my Pixel2XL. Not even a little bit. I used to see retention on my last OLED phone. Maybe we're getting close to OLED displays that are good enough? And yes, sometimes I have my phone on for a long time. And yes, there are static elements just like on a desktop.

You wont notice it if you use your phone. Retention happens when the screen is on all day showing a static image that doesn't change. On a macbook that would mean the apple logo for sure would burn in. Hell, even on my non-oled lcd monitors they're burning in even though they're not supposed to.

Even with pixel shifting you can still get retention too, so that's not really an option right now. I'm hopeful some company in the future will come up with a way to prevent it altogether - but it's going to have to be some kind of new screen tech.

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Post by scarface74 »

biztos wrote: post #590
docker_up wrote: post #176

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I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

If it’s any consolation (probably the opposite) my 2017 MBP, without Touch Bar, has gotten about 2h battery when running a now-typical corporate “pro” stack (docker, slack, Outlook, etc) sind day one. If only running UNIx stuff plus maybe a browser I can push it to 6. Every time I get out my 2013 MBP (not for the day job) I remember what a computer could be.

Slack and Outlook - I either use the web versions or just use my phone. They are both cross platform battery killers.

Docker - I don’t use it, but if it’s anything like the VMs I use to run, it also kill batteries.

I’m better off provisioning all of that on our DEV AWS Account and just connecting via my phone’s hotspot if I don’t have a reliable network connection and running very few things locally.

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Post by wj »

bscphil wrote: post #368
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

For running Adobe products, I use Virtualbox running Windows 10 on my Linux laptop. The speed of hypervisors has gotten so good recently I genuinely can't tell the difference over running Windows natively, even though this laptop is 8 years old now. Everything "just works" and so I don't see why which programs you need to run should determine what brand of computer you buy or what OS you run on it, any more. I guess…

My main system is currently a late 2012 maxed out Mac Mini that struggles with Adobe products. I also miss Linux on my desktop so your set up is appealing to me. Looking to use Lightroom, Illustrator, InDesign, and Photoshop. By chance have you passed through a drawing pad?

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Post by scarface74 »

_t2kx wrote: post #557
badpun wrote: post #355

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Linux on Macbooks is still crap though...

yeah no shit, apple only wants you to run macos on their hardware.

Directly from Apple’s support page.

“Install Windows 10 on your Mac with Boot Camp Assistant”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201468

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Post by ylere »

vogon_laureate wrote: post #566

I own both a 15" Macbook Pro 2017 model with touch bar and a Dell XPS 15" 2017 model. Both have their pluses and minuses. Both needed major repairs. Dell needed logic board and screen replaced. Mac needed logic board and keyboard. I mainly use the Mac. It's much quieter, has an amazingly vivid and bright retina display, extremely good battery life, best track pad in the industry and the best speakers on any laptop I'…

I've also switched to an XPS15 as a linux machine - the largest benefit Dell has over Apple is that IF something breaks (or I break it accidentally) someone will be at my home or at work within 24 hours with replacement parts and will fix it, no questions asked. I can't afford having to go to the apple store and wait days for a replacement when it's my main work machine. The build quality is quite decent and if you look inside it's clearly designed to be repairable on-site, while fixing Apple notebooks often requires replacing entire sections at once and the use of specialized tools.

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Post by jteppinette »

criddell wrote: post #429
jteppinette wrote: post #168

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Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.

Maybe you don't want to comment, but are people inside Apple that use a MacBook all day generally happy with the keyboards? I know there's going to be a mix of opinions, but here and on sites like Reddit, it feels like there's a majority opinion that the new keyboards are worse.

Sometimes I just smash the keys till they get unstuck.

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Post by jazoom »

dawnerd wrote: post #602
jazoom wrote: post #558

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I have never seen retention on my Pixel2XL. Not even a little bit. I used to see retention on my last OLED phone. Maybe we're getting close to OLED displays that are good enough? And yes, sometimes I have my phone on for a long time. And yes, there are static elements just like on a desktop.

You wont notice it if you use your phone. Retention happens when the screen is on all day showing a static image that doesn't change. On a macbook that would mean the apple logo for sure would burn in. Hell, even on my non-oled lcd monitors they're burning in even though they're not supposed to. Even with pixel shifting you can still get retention too, so that's not really an option right now. I'm hopeful some compan…

I don't leave my screen on the same image all day. It's on about as much as my phone. I turn it off if I'm not actively using it. This is my point. If I can have it on my phone, I should be able to have it on my desktop.

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Post by m0zg »

rpearl wrote: post #155
m0zg wrote: post #73

As a Vim user: no physical escape key, no deal. I've recently tried working on one of these, and the bar is really annoying for another reason: as you switch between apps it keeps changing right in the corner of your vision, distracting from what's going on on the screen. WTF were they thinking?

I get it, but also please map capslock to escape, your pinky will thank you for it

I remapped my computer to Thinkpad X1 Carbon running Linux instead.
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