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I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it. How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

I would pay top dollar for a 2011 era 17 inch macbook chassis, with 2019 era internals.

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"Just make sure to fix some of the sleep issues..." A great example of why people buy Macs, though. Most people don't want to faff around with hackery getting Linux to work properly. And with Windows 10's horrible privacy issues, Macs are still the best choice. They're buying them for the software, not the hardware.

My god. Problems with sleep/resume were what ultimately convinced me to switch from Linux to Mac 12 years ago . It's insane to see there are still issues with it today.

I actually have this problem with 2017 MBP. If I put lid down with anything less than 10% it will black screen and repaired a hard reboot upon opening the screen. Fortunately these days most apps have auto save.

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Pro mid 2012 user here ,oved to SSD couple of years earlier and added 4gigs of ram this year and happy customer ever.

Unfortunately I use external hard disk as boot , and in recent releases of MacOS I think apple started pushing towards fusion drive due to which had to buy a new ssd and move again ( any other alternatives?)

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What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware: - Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness. - Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory; - Display failures due to broken ribbon cables; - The USB-C clusterF; and - Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurt…

I have a 2016 MacBook Pro, and "luckily" the anti-glare coating failed. There is a free repair program for the screen appearing stained, and replacing the display panel replaced the integrated display ribbon cable that had also failed. I don't think dust is the cause of all the keyboard failures. I had been using it as a desktop computer for over a year. It isn't in a dusty room, and the computer still spends months…

The 13" 2015 model had the same issue. They replaced my screen for free a few months ago.

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I did web dev. Don't see how Linux would help me.

It really depends on what languages/frameworks you use. A lot of common languages have package support in the standard repos for Ubuntu-based distros, and the command line is more of a first-class citizen in Linux environments than in Windows or macOS.

The only feature in *sh, that is superior to PowerShell I know about is proliferation of parameter completion for tools.

Otherwise it's the same git, cmake, etc I use everywhere, just a different language.

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Keyboard issues aside, these laptops are a thermal disaster. Mine heats up and gets loud fans if 20% or more CPU is used for more than a minute or two.

My non-Retina MBP would need to be at 100% for 10-15+ minutes for the fans to kick in at half the volume.

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Beyond all the comments about the poor fixability of the MBP (screens), the absolutely horrid keyboard and the laughable amount of RAM in a $3200 laptop, who actually wants these things? They are unusable for a professional who actually types on them all day and now with the ever increasing Intel performance tax why spend the extra money on a processor that will likely have 30-50% less performance than claimed the day you buy it. Apple has become the brand of excess and ignorance.

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We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Have one of the new 15" macbook pro with touch bar. My keyboard will never break simply because I never, ever use it. It's awful to type on, possibly the worst keyboard I've ever used. As is the track pad. I have a mouse plugged into it so I don't have to use the track pad. My MBP is basically a compact desktop machine and for that it is great. Fast and responsive.

Well, you don't need to use the keyboard extensively to break it. I used my MBP 2017 in the same manner as you, but still have to replace the keyboard twice.

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This is the real announcement, to be honest. 8 cores is a convenient smokescreen, and they clearly don't want to talk about how borked their product is at WWDC so they are dropping the keyboard update with this news like it's a detail when it's actually the real story. These shitty keyboards cast a shadow over the whole product line. If they didn't fix it the third time around, it's time to abandon the damn mechanism…

Ehh, fixing the keyboards (assuming its fixed--they've said the same thing 2 or 3 times now) and hopefully the monitor cable only addresses the literally broken things about the new laptops and ignores the other things people prefer the 2015 for. Although multi-core is nice to see, it still maxes out at 32G--without an option to upgrade later, either. It still looks to have the same camera I had in my 2009 MBP...this…

I feel like the power management through USBC on the new Macbooks is not good. Frequently my CPU would overheat whenever I was charging my computer.

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> Either way I think these are still the best notebooks you can buy. Five years ago you could make that statement and not have to think twice about it. However now there is too much competition. 1. Dell XPS 2. Matebook X Pro 3. Asus Zenbook Pro These are just 3 laptops off the top of my head that can compete with the latest and greatest Macbook Pro and come out arguably better. The keyboard, thermal issues and touchb…

I’ve borrowed recent fancy dell XPS 1-2 year old from IT, used and abused by previous employees. They don’t hold up well at all. Trackpad feels crap compared to my 5 year old mb air, screens suck, keyboard feels meh. They might start out nice but they deteriorate really quickly from my firsthand sampling The old MacBooks I’ve used from IT, however, still function like original except for the visual wear and tear you…

Check out ebay, it's filled with used/old xps notebooks in good condition. Your single experience isn't necessarily reality. I agree that nothing competes with apple for the trackpad experience. But the screen on latest XPS beats the Macbook Pro. The XPS also offers a much better keyboard experience compared to the butterfly keyboard. And it's keyboard isn't inherently flawed and susceptible to malfunctioning due to dust.

I agree older macbooks were simply amazing and definitely a cut above the rest. But my point is that compared to the latest macbook pro, the 3 laptops I mentioned are very good competitors. It didn't used to be like this. Apple may have produced very reliable laptops many years ago, but that's no longer the case.

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