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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by phren0logy »

caconym_ wrote: post #388
everyone wrote: post #156

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Lots of people on HN call the Mac OS 'great' ... But why? What is so great about it that is not similar on Linux or Windows? When ye say "great", I think ye mean "the one I am familiar with".

For me it's less about what's "so great" and more about what's not awful. I need a Unix-like command line environment and Windows is inferior there. Otherwise it's fine (I use it on my gaming machine), but if you look closely you can see it's a huge mess (e.g. the insane state of the control panel(s)) in ways Mac OS just isn't. Linux is too much work. I say this as someone who has used it for years, still uses it eve…

I wholeheartedly agree. I'll add, though, that due to some recent work in deep learning I started running Pop_OS 19.04. Other than the stupid name, it's actually been surprisingly great at doing everything I need and staying out of the way without me having to fiddle with it. I can run steam, skype, zoom, and everything but office as easily as on any other os.

Overall polish is not to Mac level, but it's a smidge above Windows 10. Which is about 100x better than my prior experiences with desktop linux.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by eMSF »

devy wrote: post #208
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There's really no need to keep Win10 on the laptop. The Win10 license is kept in the UEFI so you can reinstall from a Win10 ISO at any time and it will activate correctly. This even has the added bonus of removing the Dell bloatware from your Windows install.

> The Win10 license is kept in the UEFI so you can reinstall from a Win10 ISO at any time and it will activate correctly. Not if Windows 10 detected that you have "major" hardware changes. In which case, your new installation won't be activated (granted, Microsoft doesn't enforce activation on). You may need to extract the license key from UEFI and type it in manually to get activation to work. It's a hassle.

I got bit by these "major" hardware changes on a computer I'd passed on to my relatives. For whatever reason I had had the onboard Ethernet adapter disabled in BIOS when I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and enabling it prevented Windows from activating at all. (FWIW, it was not a laptop.)

Unlike in the past, when all you had to do was call in and recite your license key, these days their policy is to accept nothing else but a proof of purchase, which in my case was from almost 10 years prior. Luckily enough, I had it archived.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by jstsch »

baxtr wrote: post #550

I just love my 2018 MB pro, including its keyboard. Am I crazy? Am I the only one?!

Nope. Me too. My 2018 MBP 15" is my dream laptop. The machine I've always wanted. Superfast. Light to carry everywhere. Comfy to work with on the couch. Connects to 2 5K displays at my desk. Even the speakers are decent. The 2016's keyboard was too clicky/rattley, but the 2018's is nice and tight.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by dmitryminkovsky »

dcosson wrote: post #485
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> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I will NEVER forgive them for this. Jobs was RIGHT when he said this was a major innovation over everyone else. Now Apple is either saying he was wrong or THEY are wrong. They're not BOTH right. My 2015 is the last MBP I will ever buy and it's aging fast... I think it's hackingtosh from here on out. I primarily use Ubuntu but I have to have a Mac as our app runs cross platfor…

I guess I'm the only one that thinks USB-C is actually better? The biggest win is that now I can use a single dongle for power, displayport to my monitor, and connection to a USB hub. So if I take my laptop home or into a meeting room, when I get back to my desk it's just a single thing to plug in now instead of 3+ separate cables. And since this stuff is all standardized now and there's no longer anything Apple prop…

I also enjoy the USB-C more. I don't know when or why, but at some point the MagSafe got annoying.

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Post by BanazirGalbasi »

lostmsu wrote: post #416
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(B) Web developer friendly. I am a game dev. I have no need for Unix.

I did web dev. Don't see how Linux would help me.

It really depends on what languages/frameworks you use. A lot of common languages have package support in the standard repos for Ubuntu-based distros, and the command line is more of a first-class citizen in Linux environments than in Windows or macOS.

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Post by nihonde »

Areading314 wrote: post #203
nihonde wrote: post #179

Mac user since 1984. Zero problems with my 2017 MBP other than a loose command key that was replaced same-day, within 5 mins after arriving at the store. My company has bought 20+ MBP in the past two years. We’ve had three units with screen issues (stuck pixels etc) that were all replaced on the spot. None of that outweighs the conveniences of OS X. I’ve been reading about how Apple screwed the pooch for almost forty…

15% of your laptops have had major hardware issues in 2 years? Seems ridiculously bad given this is a premium product. I will never understand the loyalty to Macs given they are so obviously inferior to PC offerings these days.

My experience with PC makers was far worse in terms of failure rates and more importantly, support. Small sample size, though.

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Post by computerex »

stoppergoo wrote: post #461
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> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I will NEVER forgive them for this. Jobs was RIGHT when he said this was a major innovation over everyone else. Now Apple is either saying he was wrong or THEY are wrong. They're not BOTH right. My 2015 is the last MBP I will ever buy and it's aging fast... I think it's hackingtosh from here on out. I primarily use Ubuntu but I have to have a Mac as our app runs cross platfor…

Really just the MagSafe is the big difference they lost. Supposedly the keyboard sucks, why don’t they just fix it or go back to the previous iteration. Either way I think these are still the best notebooks you can buy. Ubuntu doesn’t even work right on my dell desktop - it never remembers dual monitor settings, even with Nvidia official drivers installed. When I open my MacBook Air I can just use it without waiting…

> Either way I think these are still the best notebooks you can buy.

Five years ago you could make that statement and not have to think twice about it. However now there is too much competition.

1. Dell XPS

2. Matebook X Pro

3. Asus Zenbook Pro

These are just 3 laptops off the top of my head that can compete with the latest and greatest Macbook Pro and come out arguably better. The keyboard, thermal issues and touchbar have really hurt the latest macbook pro. Apple needs to admit they are wrong, ditch the shitty butterfly keyboard and fix the random issues that have started plaguing the Macbook in Apple's quest for thinness.

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Post by andrekandre »

hamburglar wrote: post #300
mmartinson wrote: post #90

I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it. How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

Yes, I wrote pretty much exactly this in another reply in this thread. The main problem is that "thinner" costs a lot in terms of other features and functionality, and yet there is a whole class of users for whom "thinner" has no value whatsoever. That's me. Stop trying to make it thinner and pleasing us becomes easy.

i think it’s high time apple decouple screen size, core-count and thinness with “pro-ness”

there is no technical reason (that i know of) stopping apple from selling a 15 inch laptop as thin as the macbook air (and still even get a low-clocked 4 core cpu in there)... i for one would buy that up in a heartbeat

for those that really need power, they can have a much thicker 6 or 8 or higher core cpu + discrete gpu and it would be fine (for that target) i would imagine...

but maybe apples marketing dept knows more than i do (not being sarcastic)

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Post by gumby »

popularrecluse wrote: post #431
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FWIW, not resting your hand/wrist but keeping your hand parallel to the floor will reduce your chance of inflaming your carpal tunnel. Consider the large touch pad a gift from Apple in this regard :-)...

Ok i will try.

My piano teacher had me play scales with a coin on the back of my hand, if that helps.

If you look at the anatomy of the wrist you’ll see the problem. It’s worse for woman who have been pregnant (the lining sells for some reason and stays that way)

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Post by adrianhel »

EForEndeavour wrote: post #192
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I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

Obligatory "Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro" link (late 2016): https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the... > Gone is the gimmicky TouchBar, gone are the four USB-C ports that forced power users to carry a suitcase full of dongles. In their place we get a cornucopia of developer-friendly ports: two USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 2 ports, a redesigned power connector, and a long-awaited HDMI po…

Can I have one of those please?
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