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CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by Causality1 »

striking wrote: post #25
m463 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People would complain (remember the pre-loaded U2 album?)

I don't think people would complain if it came with the product, just like no one complained about the few tracks that came with Windows 7 (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Tuna ). The problem with the U2 tracks is that 1) they were delivered automatically by surprise and 2) you couldn't refuse them. They were just dropped onto your phone without warning. This is especially egregious when you consider the fa…

It was also a reminder that your phone is backdoored by Apple and they can do whatever they please with it and your files. But they never would. But they can.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by sneak »

Causality1 wrote: post #31
striking wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think people would complain if it came with the product, just like no one complained about the few tracks that came with Windows 7 (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Tuna ). The problem with the U2 tracks is that 1) they were delivered automatically by surprise and 2) you couldn't refuse them. They were just dropped onto your phone without warning. This is especially egregious when you consider the fa…

It was also a reminder that your phone is backdoored by Apple and they can do whatever they please with it and your files. But they never would. But they can.

There is a pretty big difference between something that autodownloads a list retrieved from a database-backed web service and remote code execution (a “backdoor”).

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by Rebelgecko »

cholantesh wrote: post #28
Rebelgecko wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving everyone a copy of 36 Chambers would be a very un-Jobs thing to do. Imagine, you put your product in the hands of a journalist, they put the earbuds in, and the first thing they hear is a 2 minute description of torture and testicular mutiliation

The first thing they'd hear is a contextless monologue about rival kung-fu schools.

The scroll wheel demonstration took them down to track 9

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by asark »

munificent wrote: post #20
8draco8 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…

If we're going for a "best" list (rather than "most important") a cheap way to slightly improve it would be to swap Nevermind for In Utero.

Though I thought it was actually a pretty well-curated set of albums. "Best" isn't always the... well, best, thing to aim for in a collection.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by favorited »

joezydeco wrote: post #17
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #8

It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

Apple Computer was continuously in legal battles with Apple Corps (the record label owned by the Beatles) over staying out of each other’s business (easy for the Beatles, hard for Steve Jobs) Shipping iPod with Beatles content would have been a really nasty legal knot. Or it would have made the universe implode. One or the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

When Apple and Apple settled their differences and you could finally get the Beatles on iTunes, Apple Stores played only Beetles music over their sound systems for months. I can only imagine what it was like working there at that point.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by teh_klev »

I thought I was going to roll my eyes at the selection, but there's something for everyone here given the year and they allow listeners to dip into genre's they may never actively listen to.

Quite nice to see Miles Davis' "Kinda Blue" and the Dave Brubeck Quartet's "Take Five". Those were the two albums (along with Coltrane's "Blue Train" and Thelonius Monk - [don't remember the record]) that gave me an entry door into jazz back in the mid-90's and ever since jazz has been such a joy in my life. Davis' "So What" still stands up the hairs on the back of my neck even after 25 years each time I play it.

That said I have a fairly wide taste in music ranging from Napalm Death to Philip Glass, from 60's psychadelic to 21st century analogue electronica.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by draw_down »

roryrjb wrote: post #2

A pretty good collection in fact. Of course the stuff here is popular, but mostly for good reason, and varied, naturally. Thinking about music and Apple always makes me think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

Hmm, I was thinking that it wasn’t too varied, actually. For example, I got pretty far down the list before I saw anyone who wasn’t a white man. (That’s their prerogative of course, nobody was requiring them to meet some level of musical diversity.)

I guess it depends on how different you think Mozart and the Beatles are.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Post by scarface74 »

malvosenior wrote: post #4

Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen. Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship: https://blogs.wsj.com/speak…

Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music).

Ed Colligan former CEO of Palm in 2006 on rumors that Apple was releasing a phone.

“We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone, PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in.“

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