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CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

People would complain (remember the pre-loaded U2 album?)

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

#22

Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen. Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship: https://blogs.wsj.com/speak…

You're not the target market.

As a matter of fact, that's how just about everything apple works. They are "for the rest of us" and they don't pander to professionals (no matter if they name their products "pro")

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

#23
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…

Who said that this was a list o the best 20 CDs? Those was the best CDs for demographic they was targeting. That list was both good music and a marketing tool. That’s why there is no number one pop stars of that time on this list.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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post #21

It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

People would complain (remember the pre-loaded U2 album?)

I've never had an iPod (even as a kid, I had to be "that guy" being different, with my Creative ZEN mp3 player), but my understanding is that the U2 album was something that was pushed out to everyone, not pre-loaded, correct? Maybe I'm misremembering.

FWIW, I'm also a Kobo user, and I've never heard of anyone complaining about the 100 public domain eBooks that were preloaded onto early Kobo devices.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobo_eReader#Kobo_eReader

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

#25
post #21

It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

People would complain (remember the pre-loaded U2 album?)

I don't think people would complain if it came with the product, just like no one complained about the few tracks that came with Windows 7 (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Tuna).

The problem with the U2 tracks is that 1) they were delivered automatically by surprise and 2) you couldn't refuse them. They were just dropped onto your phone without warning. This is especially egregious when you consider the fact that Apple has been charging an arm and a leg for storage space on phones, so people were left without storage as this album auto downloaded. (see https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2794347/oops...)

Preloads are fine, especially when done tastefully or unobtrusively. Apple didn't do that with the U2 tracks.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

#26

It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

Apple Computer was continuously in legal battles with Apple Corps (the record label owned by the Beatles) over staying out of each other’s business (easy for the Beatles, hard for Steve Jobs) Shipping iPod with Beatles content would have been a really nasty legal knot. Or it would have made the universe implode. One or the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

A funny tidbit from this saga:

> When new sounds for System 7 were created, the sounds were reviewed by Apple's Legal Department who objected that the new sound alert "chime" had a name that was "too musical," under the recent settlement. The creator of the new sound alerts for System 7, Jim Reekes, had grown frustrated with the legal scrutiny and first quipped it should be named "Let It Beep", a pun on The Beatles' "Let It Be". When someone remarked that that would not pass Legal's approval, he remarked, "so sue me". After a brief reflection, he resubmitted the sound's name as sosumi (a homophone of "so sue me"), telling the Legal Department that the name was Japanese and had nothing to do with music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…

Giving everyone a copy of 36 Chambers would be a very un-Jobs thing to do. Imagine, you put your product in the hands of a journalist, they put the earbuds in, and the first thing they hear is a 2 minute description of torture and testicular mutiliation

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…

Giving everyone a copy of 36 Chambers would be a very un-Jobs thing to do. Imagine, you put your product in the hands of a journalist, they put the earbuds in, and the first thing they hear is a 2 minute description of torture and testicular mutiliation

The first thing they'd hear is a contextless monologue about rival kung-fu schools.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

#29
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…

No Sarcofago, no entry.
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