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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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well what everyone seems to be missing here is this: we don't have a choice. the alternatives are not better. so apple has no incentive to make its products better, in fact there is incentive to make them worse in order to cut costs and increase revenues (a luxury afforded by the lack of comptetition). the profit margins on dongles are probably much greater than on anything in the system. until something comes along to seriously challenge their monopoly, or apple discovers the kind of pride it had under jobs, it will continue to get worse (at least for us folk who actually use these machines to their potential. there is clearly a market for which they are stylish instagram viewers). this is a great opportunity for MS, who is heavily courting developers. now with linux subsystem et all and all that's left is to close the trackpad gap. apple can fade away into irrelevance.

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Is there a petition I can sign? Will pay 20% on top.

While I'm dreaming, I want a smaller touch pad too. That's right where your hands rest. I'm constantly having issues with moving the pointer because of unwanted touches being recognized. I've been using this machine for 6 months now, and as an iOS dev I'm locked in. But I don't love it, even if they thought I was gonna.

FWIW, not resting your hand/wrist but keeping your hand parallel to the floor will reduce your chance of inflaming your carpal tunnel.

Consider the large touch pad a gift from Apple in this regard :-)...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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It's probably time to start banging the ThinkPad drum again, but first they need to put their RAM back in sockets.

Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.

And a $20 mouse is leagues above any touchpad.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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These used to excite me because I've desperately needed 32gb and faster procs and used to upgrade every 2-3 years but now I just yawn at MBP releases. I'm so unexcited by everything about this form factor other than the fact that it has OSX. I'm guessing I'll be on my 2016 until I finally bite the bullet and quit using OSX if they don't make a more compelling package to spend my $3k on in the next few years. I don't…

I thought the same thing. Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Now I'm saving up for a Macbook Pro again, despite my hatred for the keyboard and touchbar.

Sorry to say, but you should have bought a Dell or Lenovo. -- On the other hand I think something is wrong with your Asus, this can't be.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

May suggest running Ubuntu in a VM for a while, see how it works for you? Not that that will help address driver issues.

Fwiw, it's my current setup - I'm currently trying to decide between installing it outside the VM, or migrating to a cloud desktop.

Unix still isn't a great desktop, but, as the alternatives get worse, it's coming into its own.

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Because they don't use slow SSDs. The read / write speeds on the SSD in the Macbook Pro are insane. see: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/13/2018-macbook-pro-fastes... we are talking at least 6x what other laptops use.

Not to mention that it’s basically 4 SSDs on 4 PCIe buses. Edit : I don’t really understand downvotes. SSD on recent Macbook Pros does connect to the northbridge via 4 PCIe lanes. And this is not what “but look I can the same for £50” SSD does.

Most NVMe drives use 4 lanes.

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I thought the same thing. Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Now I'm saving up for a Macbook Pro again, despite my hatred for the keyboard and touchbar.

Same here. Replaced my MacBook Pro with an X1 Carbon last summer. Short circuiting my usual 2-year upgrade cycle and buying whatever Apple releases this fall.

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8-core CPU, even presumably with HT off after all the recent Intel vulnerabilities, makes me laugh after my personal experience with my late 2016 MacBook Pro 13 touch bar with fastest (at that time) i7. During normal browsing especially with plugged charger, it was heating so much that something in the keyboard was unglueing. The space bar and 'c' produced different clicking sound. I was quite unhappy with that since…

Using Safari with an adblocking extension that makes use of WebKit’s native content blocking capabilities makes an enormous difference when it comes to heat and power draw. I’ve tried Chrome and Firefox with uBlock Origin and both are considerably more demanding in CPU use while not being that much faster. Where Chrome and Firefox has my fans ramped up to 60%, Safari has them running at 10% or switched off. Really wi…

Any recommendation on a good adblocking extension for Safari on MacOS? I've been using KaBlock but I've not found a great source that meaningfully compares the existing options.

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(B) Web developer friendly. I am a game dev. I have no need for Unix.

You're in a bit of a niche though; gamedev is heavily slanted towards the microsoft ecosystem, and that might be changing depending on how Stadia is adopted. Source: myself, a gamedev for AAA titles.

Imo HN needs to be reminded as much as possible that not all of programming is web-apps.

Its very common here in comments (and articles) for the two to be synonymous.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Okay but hold on a second, I didn't see this in any of the comments so far:

A fully specced new macbook pro with the i9 costs 6500 DOLLARS.

i9 CPU, 32GB RAM, 4TB SSD, and Vega Pro GPU.

I have spent, in 15 years of owning/building computers and laptops, around $8000 total. The fact that these numbers are even comparable is insane.

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