Is there a marketing person here who can help Apple come up with some good copy for the thicker laptops they need to make? They need to quit being so thin it seems.
“Thicc in specs and has the body to show for it”
Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's the difference between cheap SATA SSDs and expensive NVMe PCIe SSDs. > Search for comps on any online retailer and you'll see how expensive and fast those are. $250 for a 1TB 970 EVO Plus. Which has better write throughput.
Here is what Lenevo charges for a similar upgrade using a slightly slower SSD https://imgur.com/a/ug87MaI That 250$ more to upgrade to the 1tb from the 512gb. the retail price of the upgrade is 450$
So… they charge half the price Apple does, and if you don't want to pay it you don't have to care because it's a standard m.2 so you can swap it with a retail drive (at which point you have both the original and the replacement for 50% more storage at a lower price), which you can't do with a soldered Apple drive.
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#223No thank you. Sticking with iMac for the next 3 years. After having to return the new MacBook Pro with the fantastic shaky new ports.
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#224The press release is downright misleading. For 8 cores, or even 6, you have to buy the 15" model. Neither are available in the 13" model. And the 15", while starting at $2399, is not the 8 core option, that is the old 6 core option. And of course the 8 core option, at $2799, only has 512GB of disk space and 16GB RAM. If you want a reasonable 32GB and 1TB disk space (which presumably you would if you have a use for 8…
$3600 isn't all that much. Bought a G3 PowerBook for that much with 256GB of RAM and 80GB HD.
256GB of RAM, eh?
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#225https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/21/apple-announces-new-macboo... "Today, however, [Apple] told me that they’re taking three explicit steps to help with the keyboard situation. 1. The MacBook Pro keyboard mechanism has had a materials change in the mechanism. [...]"
This is the real announcement, to be honest. 8 cores is a convenient smokescreen, and they clearly don't want to talk about how borked their product is at WWDC so they are dropping the keyboard update with this news like it's a detail when it's actually the real story. These shitty keyboards cast a shadow over the whole product line. If they didn't fix it the third time around, it's time to abandon the damn mechanism…
> If they didn't fix it the third time around, it's time to abandon the damn mechanism and accept that thicc computers can be beautiful, too.
The crazy thing is that it was/is. Who didn’t love it?
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#2268-core CPU, even presumably with HT off after all the recent Intel vulnerabilities, makes me laugh after my personal experience with my late 2016 MacBook Pro 13 touch bar with fastest (at that time) i7. During normal browsing especially with plugged charger, it was heating so much that something in the keyboard was unglueing. The space bar and 'c' produced different clicking sound. I was quite unhappy with that since…
8-core CPU means that I can rebuild my code almost twice as fast. That's 8 minutes vs. 16. Doesn't make me laugh. I guess there's a reason it's "Pro".
The performance will only be better for the first 30 or so seconds anyway before the cpu has to start thermal throttling.
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#227After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…
I have a late 2013 MacBook pro and the Dell precision 5530 running Ubuntu 16.04. The Precision 5530 is faster for everything except when I'm using it for video conferencing. A regular Hangouts session brings it down to its knees. I will be holding on to my 2013 MacBook pro as long as I can :).
Yes for Video conferencing Mac or Windows are so much better when it comes to hardware and application support. Being in need of some Unix-compatible, Macs are still my first choice although my last purchase decision was really not easy...
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#228Nice. But I don’t need more speed, I need longer battery life, a better keyboard, and a screen that can, at least for short periods, be super bright (for outdoor use).
Lack of speed ceased to by my concern with the 2013 MBP (which I still use today).
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#229When in God's name will they get rid of TouchBar? I DESPISE IT. Why not add the function keys back and add the touch bar above it? I see that there's space above! Am I the only one that feels this way?
Right there with you. It'd be a neat addition if it didn't require sacrificing F-keys, and/or was an optional upgrade. First thing I checked is if the new 15-inch has a non-Touch-Bar option (the answer is no). I just ordered a new MacBook Air, despite being relatively underpowered, and a significant factor in the choice is that it's the only way to get Touch ID and F-keys.
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#230Apple designers need a new mantra, the age-old adage: "Form follows function." As it is, they're choosing a form ahead of time and compromising on function. The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs. The "thinness" or "sleekness" is only a nice-to-have, and only if it doesn't require compromise elsewhere.
hardware specs? They usually very outdated. They didn't update the air processor for like 4 generations.
The Air is an exception—it was in this limbo where it looked like it didn’t have a place in the product lineup between the MacBook and MacBooks Pro. A couple of exceptions is hardly “usually.” The other lines are updated regularly with whatever is the latest in October.