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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by tomduncalf » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

Dunedan wrote: post #78

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Have you come across a second issue with the screens as well, which causes them to develop moving yellow spots? (for examples see: https://gregsamborski.com/macbook-pro-led-screen-discolorati... )

I had this issue. I assumed it was heat related, as the laptops can get real hot and sometimes I’m sure it doesn’t shut down properly when you close it - on mine the marks corresponded with the top bit of the keyboard, where it gets hottest.

Brought it in under Apple care and it was replaced (along with the keyboard, rolls eyes) no questions.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by naaaaak » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

> revised BUTTERFLY KEYBOARD

NO BUY.

> should reduce missed/double key presses

But not fix them.

> Announced along with an expanded Keyboard Service Program to cover the 2018 laptops

This one will also be affected.

Dead laptop line.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by dkarl » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

I think Apple needs a tick-tock development cycle where the tick is making their products thinner and the tock is fixing all the usability and reliability regressions.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by masklinn » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

CBLT wrote: post #117

akamel wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they don't use slow SSDs. The read / write speeds on the SSD in the Macbook Pro are insane. see: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/13/2018-macbook-pro-fastes... we are talking at least 6x what other laptops use.

In case you haven't realized you can buy comparable 1TB NVMe SSDs in today's market for around $100. I see the budget Intel 660p hit $80 for 1TB on sale, or high-end Phison E12 drives at $115 for 1TB on sale.

FWIW the 660p has significantly lower throughput (though not 6x by any stretch of the imagination), it's listed and benched around 1800 for reads and writes.

More problematically, it also has serious latency degradation issues when working outside the SLC cache: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13078/the-intel-ssd-660p-ssd-...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by docker_up » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

When in God's name will they get rid of TouchBar? I DESPISE IT. Why not add the function keys back and add the touch bar above it? I see that there's space above!

Am I the only one that feels this way?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by sigzero » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

If the internal fan layout didn't change this is going to be baaaad.

Apple, make it a little thicker to handle a better keyboard and cooling system.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by penagwin » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

victor22 wrote: post #95

My 2018 Macbook Pro's screen failed. They replaced it for free, but damaged the webcam in the process. They told me I'd need to pay over 500 dollars to get it fixed since I could not prove it was damaged while switching screens.

You need to escalate to a manager if you're being honest and really want your Webcam fixed.

Source: Work at a phone/computer repair store. Mess ups happen but even the technician might not know if they broke the camera, if it was working before, etc. They may just be too low to make exceptions for you and have to assume it was already broken.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by jteppinette » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:04 PM UTC

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #64

neural_thing wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want a MBP that is a late 2013 body with modern hardware inside it. I know there are many others like me.

It's probably time to start banging the ThinkPad drum again, but first they need to put their RAM back in sockets.

Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware

The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by xchaotic » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:04 PM UTC

unicornfinder wrote: post #127

m0zg wrote: post #73

As a Vim user: no physical escape key, no deal. I've recently tried working on one of these, and the bar is really annoying for another reason: as you switch between apps it keeps changing right in the corner of your vision, distracting from what's going on on the screen. WTF were they thinking?

As a Vim user, just do what any sane man would do and rebind caps lock to escape. Much better.

what's a good way for vim to have that when you ssh into a remote box? Would you do the rebinding in the Terminal app or something, agent forwarding or something similar? I ssh into newly provisioned boxes regularly to edit some config files so I'd need something that works not just locally...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by galad87 » Tue, May 21, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

They announced a screen repair program too: https://www.apple.com/support/13-inch-macbook-pro-display-ba...