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Does this apply to phones being currently sold? If I buy today the Huawei P30 Pro, in amazon.de, will I have (and keep) access to Google services?
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The dominance of bundled sales by carriers is not a universal practice around the world. In Europe this was even forbidden for long time as it gave the Telco's too much power over the nascent mobile industry.
its not forbidden, i thing it's the way most of the cell phones are sold in europe. https://shop.a1.net/handys-telefonie/alle-handys/?ProcessTyp...
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Google Play Services != Google Play Store The play services is a framework that many (and probably all "western") apps require because they use push notifications, maps, google ads and probably a lot of other google services. An android phone without those services installed isn't able to run said apps. And while it is possible to emulate the play services, I don't think this would work on a huge scale because they w…
From a developer perspective, the Google Play Services are so damn convenient, and they work well. When it comes to push notifications in particular, I don't know of an alternative which works quite as well as Firebase (if there is, please tell me!) It seems like developing apps without the Google Play Services will take longer, and be more expensive. Maybe that's just psychological, but it's risky to decide not to u…
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I am not sure why Asian Phone companies would do anything. As far as we see, only Chinese companies might want to. Asia is big and includes a lot more countries than China. Other asian countries are in the same bucket as Europe in moving to custom ecosystem.
It said Asian because Samsung is in the same boat, albeit for different reasons (think platform lockout instead of govt pressure). That's why the keep developing Tizen. I assume that Japanese manufacturers are under a similar threat.
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To suggest that China and South Korea are at the same receiving end of US' wrath tells me how twisted your thinking is. Also, why don't you spare Samsung your strategy. Both you and they will be better without it.
you're taking that to an oddly personal level. Obviously, the views of China vs SK are different in the US right now. Who is to say what the future holds if South Korea tries to make stronger ties with North Korea (considering NK blames the US for their current stalemate)? I'd argue that Samsung probably wants to have a contingency for things that are outside of their control, but yeah, out of wack thinking.
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> Why would LG and Samsung want to participate in this and risk Google's wrath? As an insurance, so they do not have to be afraid of Google's wrath.
Samsung with their own apps has been hedging their bets that way.... but going all out and forking the OS and building a device (even for test) could get them kicked from the Open Handset Alliance.
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Childish? Mobs of people regarding politics? You don't say. I mean, would you say the US body politic has been acting particularly adult lately? Trump has painted himself into a corner with all the trade war stuff, the only move he knows is escalation, and this is obviously a dumb idea. Chinese companies are big enough to fork Android, and now they're supremely motivated even if this were reversed tomorrow. One more…
Can't argue with that, but I felt the original author I replied to took it way too personally. US politics is a joke of a democracy and more so now that they have elected a true buffoon as their president. I would argue as a nation, Trump was one of the worst options they could have picked, but since they have long since descended into tribality and unsound rhetoric I guess that's their equilibrium (with Russian aid…
People should accept that and that being the rhetoric nothing has changed since 200 years.
Clearly this requires to challenge one's belief, judging by the comments.
I don’t support the decision to ban android for Huawei but ... how many companies in China been kicked from their market including Google , Facebook etc . Most of Chinese still saying that was right decision, so what’s wrong with kicking out one company due to espionage. No issues with let’s say one plus which is more popular in US and still Chinese.
>how many companies in China been kicked from their market including Google For the record, Google voluntarily withdrew from China as a form of moral protest (it didn't want to help the government censor/spy on its citizens). It wasn't just banned as a means of protecting local companies, since Bing isn't banned, nor for that matter is Azure or Outlook/Hotmail.
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This has been mandated by a US government decree. The US president has declared a "National Emergency" which gives him this kind of power. They have placed Huawei and 70 linked partners on a trade blacklist saying Huawei is a danger to national security. So it is now effectively an offense for US companies to trade with Huawei directly or indirectly. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3010403/us-commerce-... I h…
> The US president has declared a "National Emergency" which gives him this kind of power. When everything is a 'national emergency', nothing is. > I hope it leads to competition, but i doubt that will happen any time soon. Are you living under a rock? There is already a LOT of competition in the US smartphone market (both domestic and foreign brands) and now, with this new 'national emergency,' there is less competi…
While Apples growth rate has fallen, i'm am sure there is a reason why it can charge over 2 x high-end premiums. Hint: It has nothing to do with the hardware.
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As a consumer, I'm almost at the stage now when buying a phone or any consumer tech - that I feel that I should be printing out a list of features the phone offers and getting the sales chap to sign them, so if any are changed/removed down the line (like software updates stop prematurely) - I'd have an easier legal redress to obtain a refund under being mis-sold.
This. I can't update Android in my phone, because I'll lose ability to record calls. But I can't even turn off the popup to perform Software Update! I should at least be able to snooze these reminders forever.